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    Hi all,

    I would like to consult the effect of a DC explosion on a fishing vessel? I expect only a shake in case of close explosion, but that would be all.
    Any comments would be much appreciated.

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    Pavel, Hi,
    This is just intuition, but I suspect that the effects of a nearby significant explosion (at whatever depth) would be different on a wooden hulled vessel, then on a metal hulled vessel. Both would probably lose some incandescent light bulbs, but I would bet some of your money that the metal hull would spring more leaks than the wooden one!!!!!!!!!!
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    Hi Peter, thx for your reply. Your opinion fits with my own expectation that the vessels would not suffer fatal damage in any way.

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    i think you are being optimistic, though it would depend very much on just how near. A near miss by a bomb could very well do severe damage to any vessel, and the shock could also cause internal damage such as causing the engine to shift on its mountings. A similarly close depth charge would have the same effect. It is worth recalling that wooden vessels were considered preferable for early minesweepers because of their non-magnetic hulls, not for the possibility of lesser structural damage.

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    Thanks for your comment Graham, well as the attack was made in the night and the report stated only there were dropped 3 DCs at each side of vessels and that is all. No further sightings, no report how close they hit the water, etc. So I am trying to establish what can be the result of the attack. Now I suppose it can be anything from nothing - via shaken vessels with some possible leaks - to serious damage like engine shifted on its mountings (considering they have an engine). Am I right?

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    Engines loosened/lifted from mountings, steam boilers/high-pressure pipes fractured and leaking, hull plates tested to the limit particularly with welded seams, etc.

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    Thank you Pete, I think I will make just a general remark about possibility which damage may be caused depending on the distance from explosion.

    Many thanks to all once more.

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    The size of the DC should give an indication of the blast to be expected, compared to a standard bomb. Also the depth setting on the charge would make a big difference to the result on a surface vessel. It should also be borne in mind that the RAF dropped "B" bombs against ship and these were designed to be buoyant and explode underneath or close to a ship. Maybe someone has a copy of the relevant TNA files on the "B" Bomb.

    My guess is that a close detonation with a standard DC would either split the ship or severely buckle it, depending on construction, with the water on the seaward side cushioning the blast towards the ship. I haven't seen anything on DC vs Ship but I suspect the effect is similar to that of Upkeep.

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    There are separate Chapters on both the Buoyant ('B') bomb (Ch 2) and on Depth Charges (Ch 4), plus Appendix 2 Aircraft Depth Charges, in the once Secret Document SD719, Armament (AHB 1952), in Vol I Bombs and Bombing Equipment.

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    Last edited by Don Clark; 10th January 2021 at 14:04.
    Toujours propos

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    PNK - thank you for your comment. Well it seems to me it would be better to avoid any speculations and simply state that no results have been observed.

    Don - thank you for interesting link.

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