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    Default What a RCAF ex-PoW would do after return to the UK?

    Hi all,
    what was the common procedure with a RCAF airman who has returned to the UK from the captivity in May 1945? Was he posted back to his former unit or was he directly posted to the Repatriation Depot to wait for his place in transport back to Canada? I have checked the unit ORB (408 Sq in particular) and also of the "R" Depot ORB but none of them mentioned anything about the ex-PoWs.

    Any advice, guidance or info will be much appreciated.

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    Default Re: What a RCAF ex-PoW would do after return to the UK?

    Books written by POWs have often recalled landing, POW Questionaire etc, Leave, Repatriation Unit, Boat home.
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    Default Re: What a RCAF ex-PoW would do after return to the UK?

    I have some information on POW Resettlement, which I think includes RCAF personnel being returned to a specific depot in the UK ..... I will see if I can find it and post the info.

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    Default Re: What a RCAF ex-PoW would do after return to the UK?

    Thank you both for your comments.
    @ James - this sounds reasonable to me, I would expected something like that.

    @ Pete - it would be verz kind of you if you can add anything. I wouls expect RCAF ex-PoWs would be posted to the “R” Depot at Warrington/Torquay if not right after the arrival than after the leave to wait for the boat.

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    Default Re: What a RCAF ex-PoW would do after return to the UK?

    First piece of information:

    On arrival in the United Kingdom, you will immediately be taken in charge by members of your own Service and will be moved to Royal Canadian Air Force centres in England. It is anticipated that you will remain in these centres only long enough for documentation (including pay), kitting and medical boards. You will then be granted railway warrants and ration cards and sent on leave for 14 days, or such longer period as may fit in most easily with transportation to Canada. At the same time, every effort will be made to acquaint you fully with the post-hostilities plans which have been formulated by your Government, which has prepared a comprehensive scheme to ensure that every member of the Canadian Armed Forces will receive every possible benefit and aid to re-establish himself in civilian life.

    Just going to dig up another document for you which I think confirms locations

    UPDATE: AMO A.993/1945 has No 3 RCAF Personnel Reception Centre, Bath Hill Court, Bournemouth shown for the repatriation of RCAF (although I note the text above shows "centres")
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    Default Re: What a RCAF ex-PoW would do after return to the UK?

    Pete thank you for addition info. Yes 3 RCAF PRC ORB mentioned those PoW so I think now that the procedure would be: 3 PRC - leave - "R" Depot - sail home. There I suppose accepting into "R" Depot and possibly moved to Release Centre.

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    Default Re: What a RCAF ex-PoW would do after return to the UK?

    One more additional question - when in PRC the ex-PoWs would also get their pay for the whole period od captivity?

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    Default Re: What a RCAF ex-PoW would do after return to the UK?

    This is the information I have on Pay, Allowances and Accounts for RAF; whether it applied to RCAF personnel, I do not know, but I guess it would have been similar

    The accountant officer will ask you to complete a statement showing whether you received any pay or working pay during captivity and also to produce any documents in your possession which relate to your account with the Detaining Power, credit balances or any receipt for currency which was surrendered or impounded from you during captivity. As soon as any balance due to you can be determined you will receive it through payment into your account by the Royal Air Force Agents on Air Ministry instructions if you are an officer, and if you are an airman it will be credited to you when the accountant officer of the unit in which you are then serving will inform you of the amount credited

    Advances of pay will be made as follows:—

    (a) Officers.-Ten pounds (10) immediately on arrival. Further advances will only be made in exceptional circumstances, e.g. if you are not in agent's pay. You are, therefore, advised to get in touch at the earliest opportunity with your bankers in order that funds may be drawn from your banking account. If you were commissioned during captivity you should ask the accountant officer as soon as possible for the necessary form to enable you to be issued with pay through the R.A.F. agents.

    (b) Airmen.-Two pounds (2) immediately on arrival. In addition the following advances will be made before departure on leave:—

    Warrant officers ...10
    Flight-sergeants and sergeants ... 8
    Corporals and leading aircraftmen ... 7
    Other airmen... 6

    Every endeavour will be made by the accountant officer to balance your pay account and issue to you as early as possible the credit balance in your account.
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    Thank you Pete for a comprehensive info!

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    Default Re: What a RCAF ex-PoW would do after return to the UK?

    "R" Depot, formerly the RCAF Personnel Despatch Centre was at Houghton Green, Warrington. In June of 1945 it was moved to Torquay before closing in January 1946.

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