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    What caused the death of and/or what were the places of death registration for:

    AC1 George F. BUTCHER - 540220;
    AC1 George CARLIN - 968285 - 272 Sqn (Chevinor, Devon);
    LAC William CUMMING - 979025, and
    F/O John MUTCH - MC - 73312.

    Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

    Blenheim IV - N3562 - 3 (C)OTU - crashed on approach Saunton Sands, Devon.
    Hector I - K9776 - TFPP - overshot landing Hanworth.
    Master I - T8818 - 8 FTS - bellylanded Montrose.
    Master I - T8878 - 8 FTS - dived into ground near Stonehaven, Kingcrdineshire.
    Tiger Moth II - N6599 - 22 EFTS - crashed on take-off Bottisham.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk,
    N3562 ,according to Warner, was on approach to Chivenor which takes it over Saunton Sands(a popular local beach) and there were no deaths, only injury to P/O M Weber who was flying on his 1st solo on the type.Carlin and Mutch did not come up so could be Scotland. In the case of Carlin, 272 Sqn had a detachment at Sumburgh in the Shetland Isles (Jefford RAF Sqns)as well as a base at Chivenor and in Late May were sent to Egypt.Butcher,22 is registered at Chester,Cumming,26, is registered at N Kesteven, Lincolnshire an area that includes airfields like Swinderby and Waddington
    Regards
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    Thanks Dick for the reply, quick as ever.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    The 8 FTS aircraft which dived into the ground was a case of none of the above.

    May 3rd 1941, “A/F/O Heathfield, A.J. killed in Master T8878 near Stonehaven, whilst
    engaged in co-operation flight for local large scale army exercises. Investigation held by
    Squadron Leader Arnold on 5th May 1941.”
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    Henk,

    I trolled the London Times for RAF activities in 1841, obviously no hits. I did however find an article that may be of peripheral interest; Britons were certainly "air-minded" at that time.

    London Times, 22 October 1841:

    PERILOUS BALLOON DESCENT
    Mr. Gypson made his 45th ascent from Spalding, Lincolnshire on Thursday last. The wind blew in strong breezes, causing great difficulty during the inflation.

    After becoming airborne, the balloon encountered heavy winds. Mr Gypson was forced to land on Holbeach-marshes. He and the balloon were dragged about one mile from the first spot landed upon.

    Balloon, car, and occupant bounded over the marshes until it plunged into the sea, through which Mr. Gypson was dragged 30-40 yards. The remnant of a willow tree on the opposite bank ensnared the balloon from which he was rescued by a Mr. Goldring, who supplied an entire change of clothing and much brandy.

    Mr. Gypson is expected to make an ascent from a neighbouring town in a week or ten days.

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    There are the deaths of two John Mutch in Scotland in 1941. One aged 52 and the other 48

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    London Gazette Date:25 April 1939

    "The undermentioned are granted commissions
    as Pilot Officers on probation, with the
    honorary ranks stated. 4th Apr. 1939"

    Squadron Leader.
    John MUTCH, M.C.
    I assume MC awarded in WW1 so at least in his 40's

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    PS Gazette has John MUTCH, M.C. (13312). Note change to serial number

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    Re JOHN MUTCH, Deceased.
    Pursuant to the Trustee Act, 1925.
    NOTICE is hereby given that all creditors and
    other persons having any debts, claims, or demands
    against the estate of John Mutch Royal Air Force
    late of " Westbury," Western Road) Tring in the
    county of Herts, deceased (who died on the 3rd
    day of May 1941) are hereby required to send in
    the particulars of their debts, claims or demands to
    us the undersigned, the Solicitors for the Executor,
    Midland Bank Executor & Trustee Company Limited,
    on or before the 5th day of October 1941, after
    which date the said executor will proceed to distribute
    the assets of the said deceased amongst the
    persons entitled thereto, having regard only to the
    • claims and demands of which the executor shall
    then have had notice and the executor will not be
    liable for the assets of the said deceased or any part
    thereof so distributed to any person or persons
    of whose debts, claims or demands the executor
    shall not then have had notice.—Dated this 2nd day
    of August 1941.
    SALT and HOWARD, 44-50, Old Christchurch
    Road, Bournemouth, Solicitors for the said
    (015) Executor.

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    Hi Henk,

    Of the two John MUTCH deaths in Scotland mentioned by Paul, one is a possibility.

    John Mutch, Sqn Ldr Royal Air Force, age 48, died of natural causes at ?Aultmore Aux. (text not clear) hospital. There is an Aultmore in Moray between Inverness and Aberdeen, and the sister's address is given as Aberdeen.

    Regards,

    David

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