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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 4-5-1941

    What caused the death of and/or what were the places of death registration for:

    LAC (Pilot u/t) Colin G.E. CROUCH - 1202561;
    F/O John A. EDWARDS - 42995 - 4 Sqn (Linton-on-Ouse, Yorkshire);
    Sgt (Wop/Ag) William G. ELLIOTT - 747946;
    Sgt (Wop) George W. KNIGHT - 626731 - 4 Sqn (Linton-on-Ouse, Yorkshire);
    Sgt (Pilot) Hubert W. LEE - 641880 (from Canada) - 242 Sqn (Stapleford Tawny, Essex) - commemorated on Panel 47 of the Runnymede Memorial;
    AC2 Kenneth PHILLIPS - 1067854 - 241 Sqn (Bury St.Edmunds, Suffolk);
    LAC Douglas H. REYNOLDS - 629581 - 18 BC, 948 (Balloon) Sqn (Rosyth, Glasgow);
    Sgt (Wop/Ag) Edward SALMONS - 755504;
    AC2 Eric W. TOWNEND - 1075689, and
    LAC John B. VANES - 861187 - 18 BC, 929 (Balloon) Sqn (South Queensferry).

    Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

    Oxford I - N4563 - 11 FTS - crashed on take-off East Morton.
    Oxford II - W6577 - 12 FTS - crashed on take-off Grantham.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Hello Henk
    Colin G.E. CROUCH age 29 registered at Whitchurch.
    John A. EDWARDS age 18 registered at Manchester.
    There are 2 William G. ELLIOTT registered in England & Wales both are unlikley to be your man. One was aged 74 registered at Birmingham and one aged 82 at Winchester.
    George W. KNIGHT age 21 registered at Dover.
    Hubert W. LEE Not listed as would be expected.
    Kenneth PHILLIPS age 20 registered at Bury St.Edmunds.
    Douglas H. REYNOLDS age 19 registered at Stirling. Killed in a road traffic acident.
    Edward SALMONS age 34 registered at Wigton.
    Eric W. TOWNEND Not found in England, Wales or Scotland.
    John B. VANES age 39 registered at Stirling. Killed in the same road traffic acident as Reynolds.
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    Thanks Andy for this much appreciated and quick reply.
    Regards,
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    Colin G.E. CROUCH age 29 registered at Whitchurch. KOAS

    Sgt William G. ELLIOTT and Hubert W. LEE are listed as Missing believed KOAS in June 19th magazine. Listed in same list as P/O. M. S. Smith: Sgt. R. J. Strickland.- Lee and Strickland are listed as 1 (C) OTU, on GRO RAF list, if that might link them to an aircraft.

    Both the 4 Sqn men, Missing, Believed KIA -
    George W. KNIGHT age 21 registered at Dover.
    John A. EDWARDS This name is on the GRO RAF lists & Runnymede still and I imagine that this person, age 18 registered at Manchester, is another name by co-incidence.

    Tony Woods Claims list:
    04.05.41 Hptm. Heinz Bretnütz: 31 Stab II./JG 53 Lysander �� - 12.53 Reference: JG 53 Lists f. 1664
    04.05.41 Oblt. Heinz Schönefeldt: 1 * Stab II./JG 3 Lysander �� 5 km. E. Deal: 100 m. - Reference: JG 3 Lists f. 424

    Kenneth PHILLIPS age 20 registered at Bury St.Edmunds. ---> DOAS June 26th magazine
    Edward SALMONS age 34 registered at Wigton. --> KOAS June 19th magazine
    Eric W. TOWNEND ---> Found age 28 in Fylde District, Lancashire. DOAS Aug 7th magazine

    Douglas H. REYNOLDS age 19 registered at Stirling. Killed in a road traffic acident.
    John B. VANES age 39 registered at Stirling. Killed in the same road traffic acident as Reynolds.
    Both the above --> DOAS of course on June 19th magazine

    Henk, no need to acknowledge this posting, unless you have further questions
    Last edited by dennis_burke; 29th October 2009 at 00:44.
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    Default 410504 - For Dennis, Ross & Errol

    SMITH, TAYLOR and STRICKLAND were on Hudson N7304 of 1(C)OTU. 'For Your Tomorrow' (Martyn) vol.1 page 120, mentions SIX casualties. LEE may have been number four, although listed by Allison in his 'TSGNO' page 416 being 242 Squadron (flying Hurricanes).
    Do Errol and Ross have more info on the crew ?
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    I don't own a copy of TSNGO but would H W Lee be listed in that? Was he Canadian or is the books remit outside of just Canadians?, the Lee I refer to is RAF and there is no CWGC link to him being from Canada?
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    Not mentioned by you Henk but you might want too have it:
    From Northern Ireland PRONI Wills calenders on their website:

    Campbell Douglas George of 11 Cooldarragh Park North Belfast sergeant R.A.F. died 4 May 1941 at the Hospital Bagdad
    Administration Belfast 16 September to William Gibb Campbell sales manager
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    Hi Henk,

    No.1 OTU ORB gives the following deaths on the Hudson:
    P/O M S Smith
    Sgt R B Taylor RNZAF
    Sgt H W Lee
    Sgt R J Strickland
    Sgt W G Elliott

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis_burke View Post
    Not mentioned by you Henk but you might want too have it:
    From Northern Ireland PRONI Wills calenders on their website:

    Campbell Douglas George of 11 Cooldarragh Park North Belfast sergeant R.A.F. died 4 May 1941 at the Hospital Bagdad
    Administration Belfast 16 September to William Gibb Campbell sales manager
    Dennis,
    CAMPBELL was killed on Wellington I.C serial T2711 of 37 Sqn. (Bomber Loses ME & Med - Gunby/Temple - vol.1 page 58). He hailed from Northern Ireland.
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    Dennis,
    Forgot to mention that he died of wounds caused by Arabs.
    Henk.

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