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    Default The Liberator book by Oughton.

    hello,
    The Liberator book by Oughton.
    I have his 90 page update which is years old now.
    Is it known if there is a more recent update ?
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    Alex

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    Default Re: The Liberator book by Oughton.

    Alex

    Where did you get the update from ? thanks Paul

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    Default Re: The Liberator book by Oughton.

    Can I ask if Alex has replied to this off line/privately? If there is/was an update I would like to know about it as well.

    Steve

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    Default Re: The Liberator book by Oughton.

    He has not replied

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    Default Re: The Liberator book by Oughton.

    I think Alex is referring to a document which was produced by Matt Poole and was posted on the RAF Liberator Squadrons website.

    I can find reference to it on that site, but cannot seem to actually find it! My printed-off copy runs to 90 pages, so pretty certain its the right thing.

    Hope this helps,

    Geoff

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    Default Re: The Liberator book by Oughton.

    Thanks very much Geoff it is helpful to be reminded of that site!
    Steve

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    Default Re: The Liberator book by Oughton.

    OMG, So very sorry, I just read this now old thread. I had forgotten all about it .
    It may well be the Poole document, I will have to take a look.

    Yes, Matt Poole 1st update 2009.

    "Corrections/discrepancies and additions to the Air-Britain book
    "The Liberator in Royal Air Force
    and Commonwealth Service"
    by James D. Oughton with John Hamlin and Andrew Thomas
    Matt Poole
    12307 Middle Rd
    Wheaton, MD 20906 USA
    301-933-1727
    E-mail: feb2944 AT aol.com
    (replace AT, spaces with @)
    VERSION 1, 16 August 2009"

    So has there been any updates since please?

    Alex
    Last edited by Alex Smart; 25th August 2021 at 00:12.

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    Default Re: The Liberator book by Oughton.

    Hi Alex,

    I think not, but Matt's a forum member so may see this and chip in. Alternatively, you could email him at the address you have given! It's still good as a means to contact him.

    Geoff
    Last edited by Smith 565; 25th August 2021 at 09:33. Reason: Typo

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    Default Re: The Liberator book by Oughton.

    I just caught wind of this old thread. I haven't been able to do an update of my Oughton Liberator book document in a while, and I keep finding changes. One huge problem is that Robert Quirk, who used to host my pdf files -- including the Oughton book one -- is out of the picture now with dementia. He was clever at writing software which would direct anyone finding the site to the latest version I'd sent him to put on the site, although the internet is so complex to a peabrain like me that I bet outdated older versions can still be found.

    At last check, Robert's website was no longer accessible, although Jagan Pillarisetti, much smarter than the average Matt, copied an archived version from the Wayback Machine. This link worked, as of yesterday:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210508...://rquirk.com/

    I don't see my latest version of the Oughton book critique/edit/update, so I'm guessing that this pdf is one that Robert remembered how to remove completely from his website for me. Other pdfs of mine are stuck on the site, because he forgot how to remove them. I'd had one long pdf, a research investigation summary, downloaded from Robert's site and then plagiarized by an Indian so-called researcher, who, to this day, claims all kinds of crap about what he found -- when actually I had done 99% of the research. So be it...that's what I get for sharing info on the web in this form.

    So I started having Robert remove my offerings from his site, to thwart at least a few "something for nothing" research thieves...but the dementia kicked in and he couldn't complete the job.

    What's left on the site you will find at the above url. I don't want to see my work plagiarized again, but I'll take my chances. Thus, I freely give you the link above. I figure more than a few have felt a loss at not being able to access Robert's ORB transcriptions, in particular, so perhaps now some of you can gain access again.

    As for my next update of the Oughton book? My plate is full, so I don't know when I'll get to it and then how I'll share the info. I have found that I made a handful of errors, too...It's hard to be accurate when there are so many errors in the ORBs and in individual logbooks! Over time, some things have been clarified, but not in a version of the document that has been seen.

    I think I did a good job on what may still be found on the web..."Meticulous Matt" was my nickname in university for a reason!

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    Default Re: The Liberator book by Oughton.

    In reading through this thread this morning, I realize that a reference was made to my Oughton book pdf file had been available on the RAF Liberator Squadron website, which is different from Robert Quirk's website. Initially, and naively, I posted the same pdf on both websites, but when I wanted to make updates, only Robert made the changes quickly and also, as I wrote, came up with software which would direct the current searcher only to the updated pdf. The RAF Liberator Squadron site, however, didn't make the change in the short term. I decided that I could only post on one website -- Robert's -- because he was so readily willing to do everything possible to make an update THE latest version available. Thus, I asked that the pdf be removed from the RAF Liberator Squadron site, and it was. (I'm very grateful, of course, that my Oughton book work was hosted on this site.)

    So that explains why I only referred to Robert Quirk in my previous posting.

    I do hope that no versions from the RAF Liberator Squadron website can still be accessed, as there were updates made to whatever had appeared on this website.

    Like I said, though, I'm behind on doing a new update. Not enough hours in the day, and all of that. And also, the editing can go on and on, as ORBs are more accessible nowadays, and they have further clarification. Also, I've come into further logbooks since my last update. Note, though, that ORBs and logbooks often have errors that can be baffling, stifling, infuriating, numbing, and any other -ing word that is negative!

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