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    H. K. Mitchell (42017) has been 'scratched' in an email from Patricia Ann Jones who knew him personally. He was in Canada for most of the war apparently, returning to the UK for a stint in 1944.

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    Hello

    Rupert Rolfe Larke MITCHELL took his Royal Aero Cub Certificate on April 29th 1939 at Horton Kirby Flying Club. He was born on November 14th 1906 at Dartford, Kent. His occupation at the time was Estate Agent.

    Not much, but at least we know he was a pilot.

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    Hi Simon,
    I have sent you a PM
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    Re: S/L Rupert Rolfe Larke MITCHELL RAF (1906-1983), 74723 - not the F/Lt. MITCHELL that I'm looking for, it would appear according to this email from his son, Philip Lawrence Larke MITCHELL

    Dear Dermott,
    Sorry, not my father. In 1942 (then W/C) RRL Mitchell was C/O of RCAF Penhold (now Red Deer Regional) in the Canadian Rockies. On returning to UK I believe he flew fighters, but as senior instructor and was never a bomber pilot.


    Good luck with your research.
    Philip

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    Quote Originally Posted by DermJKel View Post
    Re: S/L Rupert Rolfe Larke MITCHELL RAF (1906-1983), 74723 - not the F/Lt. MITCHELL that I'm looking for, it would appear according to this email from his son, Philip Lawrence Larke MITCHELL

    Dear Dermott,
    Sorry, not my father. In 1942 (then W/C) RRL Mitchell was C/O of RCAF Penhold (now Red Deer Regional) in the Canadian Rockies. On returning to UK I believe he flew fighters, but as senior instructor and was never a bomber pilot.


    Good luck with your research.
    Philip

    Richard Ronald MITCHELL
    The London Gazette – Tuesday, 14 Jan. 1941
    RAF General Duties Branch
    .. The undermentioned are granted commissions for the duration of hostilities:-
    As Pilot Officers on probation
    Sergeants
    6th Dec. 1940
    (Seniority 29 Nov. 1940)
    Richard Ronald MITCHELL; page 274 (p.10)

    The London Gazette – Friday, 19 Dec. 1941
    RAF General Duties Branch
    Pilot Offs. (prob.) to be confirmed in their appts. and to be Flg. Offs. (war subs.):-
    6th Dec. 1941 (Seny. 29 Nov. 1941)
    R. R. MITCHELL (45093); page 7185 (p.9)

    Having a closer look at the Pilot Officers in the Index and then following a couple through The London Gazette, I think I might have found my F/Lt. MITCHELL (if a FO = an Acting FL), namely, Richard Ronald MITCHELL (45093).

    Can anyone tell me anything more about him?
    Last edited by DermJKel; 23rd September 2021 at 09:30. Reason: extra information

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    Default Re: F/Lt Mitchell 21 Squadron RAF Malta WW2

    Hello

    Isn't he this Reginald Ronald Mitchell?

    http://www.bbm.org.uk/airmen/MitchellRR.htm

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    Default Re: F/Lt Mitchell 21 Squadron RAF Malta WW2

    Hi Simon,
    Yes, it would appear to be so. But then he's not my man, not the F/Lt. Mitchell I'm looking for.

    Supplement to The London Gazette, 8 July, 1947 – page 3118
    RAF GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH
    Appointment to commission…
    As Flight Lieutenants (permanent)*:-
    1st July 1946
    Richard Ronald MITCHELL, MBE, DFC (45093) (seniority 1st Jan. 1943)

    Regards,

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    Re: Richard Ronald MITCHELL RAF (1914-1994), 45093
    Just to be sure he was not the F/L Mitchell I was looking for, I checked 229 Squadron’s ORB for October 1941, and there he was, flying Hurricanes in North Africa - fortunately, the ORB listed the initials of their pilots. RR was referred to as P/O RR Mitchell up to (but not including) 14 Oct. and from then on as F/L RR Mitchell.

    I’ve since picked out another list of ‘suspects’ from the Index – see below - and write to ask if anyone can tell me anything about them:

    Rank Service No. Seniority Died
    FO
    *Philip Henry Gurrey MITCHELL 42252 PO (Seniority 9/12/39)
    FO (Seniority 9/12/40)
    FL (Seniority 9/3/42)
    FL
    *Arthur Dennis Mitchell 33373 FL (Seniority 27/2/41)
    SL (Seniority 1/3/42)
    *Thomas Vernon Mitchell 75679 PO (Seniority 22/10/40)
    See LG 31/12/40

    FO (Seniority 15/6/40)
    See LG 14/1/41

    FL (Seniority 15/6/41)
    *No mention on ‘Awesome’

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    Dermott

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    Re: the British Military Lists Index
    As I understand it, if a rank (P/O, F/O or F/L) is followed by (ASD), (D) or (E) then he’s unlikely to have been a pilot with an operational squadron as ASD = Admin. & Special Duties Branch, D = Dentist and E = Equipment.

    I’m guessing the same would apply for ranks followed by these letters too, namely:
    (A) = Accountant Branch
    (B) = Balloon Branch
    (C) = Chaplains’ Branch
    (CC) = Non-specialist civilians in RAF employ who were commissioned on mobilisation (no training).
    (G) = ?
    (M) = Medical Branch [M could also = Meteorological Branch (but much less frequently so)]
    (O) = Observer
    (T) (e) = Technical Branch, electrical? [T could also = Training Branch (but much less frequently so)]
    (T) (s) = Technical Branch, signals?

    And what does (G) stand for?

    Regards,

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    G = Gunnery (Air Gunner)

    Chris
    Last edited by cozzy711; 2nd October 2021 at 13:44.

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