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    Hello,

    299 Squadron carried a Air Commodore Battle to Arnhem on Sept 18th 1944 aboard W/Cdr Davis DSO Stirling.

    Trying to ID this A/C. I think it maybe H.F.V Battle, but he seems to have no connection with 38 Group.

    Any advice welcome.

    Chaz.

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    Hello,

    W/C D. H. Wood's book, A Noble Pair of Brothers, identifies W/C Davis' Stirling as LK135:5G-N (p.165)..

    "OPERATION MARKET"
    Second Lift - 18 September 1944 (D+1)

    No.299 Squadron - Stirling/Horsa - Keevil'

    The final briefing was held at 0830 hrs, in which last minute changes resulted in the same route to be taken. This Squadron would provide 22 combinations. W/C DAVIS again lead the Station.

    Aircraft Serial No. LK135(5GN)
    Captain: W/C P. B. N. Davis
    Action/Results: Successful glider release. Hazy. Light flak seen. Air Cdre BATTLE* - Passenger.

    * https://www.rafweb.org/Biographies/Battle.htm

    Col.
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    Default Re: Trying to I.D a Air Commodore Battle

    Col.

    Thank you for this. There is a number of errors in the book, 'A Noble Pair of Brothers', one being that W/Cdr Davis flew LK135. He actually flew Short Stirling EF319 5G-N, his personnel aircraft.

    The link takes you to H.F.V Battle who I had found previously, but the period in question is not covered.

    Thanks again.

    Chaz

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    https://www.rafweb.org/Biographies/Battle.htm


    (RAF):-- (T) 2 Lt: 1 Apr 1918, Plt Off: 1 Aug 1919 [1 Apr 1918], Fg Off: 16 Sep 1919, Flt Lt: 1 Jan 1927, Sqn Ldr:: 1 Dec 1935, Wg Cdr: 1 Nov 1938, (T) Gp Capt: 1 Mar 1941, (T) A/Cdre: 1 Oct 1944, Gp Capt: 1 Dec 1944, A/Cdre: Retained.

    No Other "Battle" of Air Rank

    https://www.rafweb.org/Biographies/1-Cdrs_A-D.htm#B

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    Default Re: Trying to I.D a Air Commodore Battle

    Hi Chaz

    Whilst I haven't been able to track down H F V Battle's appointments in the period in question, he could have been an Act A/Cdre prior to 1 Oct 1944 so would fit your situation.

    Malcolm

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    From HFV Battle's biography published by his son in 1984 :-


    From August 1944 to February 1945, Henry was Senior Air Staff Officer, No.38 Group. Soon after his appointment he was closely involved in the despatch of airborne forces to Arnhem in September 1944.
    Brize Norton in Oxfordshire was the Base of two squadrons of Armstrong Whitworth Albemarles, each aircraft towing an Airspeed Horsa glider.
    Nos.296 and 297 Squadrons (including an aicraft piloted by Henry) delivered a total of 98 gliders on 17th and 18th September, the first two days of the operation.



    To fill in your gaps Malcolm.

    May 1942-July 1942 Technical Liaison Officer to the Committee for Research and Development, Ministry of Aircraft Production.
    July 1942-July 1944 Chief Overseer, Ministry of Aircraft Production.
    Aug 1944-Feb 1945 Senior Air Staff Officer, Headquarters, No.38 Group.


    His log book is held at the RAFM, DoRIS, Ref.B1606

    Pete

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    Cheers Pete

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