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    Default Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    Hello,

    I was hoping someone might have a copy of the subject report relating to FW 190 175140 at airfield B58 in Melsbroek, Belgium?

    Thanks in advance.

    Mike
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    Default Re: Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    Hello Mike,

    The report will appear soon in your mailbox.

    Best regards

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    Default Re: Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    Luc,

    Thank you so much!

    My RCAF Dad was a Bomb Aimer on Halifaxes with 77 Sqn RAF and he made 6 trips on Op Petrol to carry 163 x 4.6 gallon jerry cans of gasoline to Melsbroek in support of Allied ground operations.

    I have pictures of members of his crew exploring this aircraft wreck and I have seen unconfirmed reports ( here among others https://www.amazon.ca/Luftwaffe-Figh.../dp/0811711471 ) that there was booby trap 500lb bomb placed under the nose and that when the Americans attempted to move the FW 190 to make more room for Allied aircraft it exploded and killed a number of them.

    I was hoping the report mentioned details of that.

    I notice you’re from Belgium…are you aware of any confirmation of the booby trap story?

    Thank you again!!!
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    Default Re: Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    Hi Mike,

    Canadian researcher David E. Brown wrote an article about this particular aircraft, see: https://airwarpublications.com/produ...tary-1-rlm-77/. The article includes several photographs of the aircraft, and provides some details about the booby trap.

    Cheers,
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    Default Re: Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    Thank you Andrew!

    I had previously seen reference to that article and I have downloaded it. As you say, it does provide a few references to the aircraft and the booby trap.

    One of the things I find challenging when researching is the anecdotal referencing without an actual defined source. In his article, Brown states, "It appears obvious that the aircraft’s destruction took place sometime during clean-up and repair of the airfield and facilities, which were ready for use by 22 September 1944, and prior to the arrival of the Allied intelligence team at Melsbroek." Which implies to me that it could be as early as 22 Sep and absolutely no later than 10 Oct when the Crashed Enemy Aircraft report # 255 is dated.

    However, using my Dad's: aircrew logbook, personal notebook and 77 Sqn ORBs as primary sources - I can say definitively that he made his first trip to Melsbroek on 25 Sep 44 with subsequent trips on 27, 28, 29 Sep 44 and 1,2 Oct 44. I have 17 photos of Melsbroek, including 4 with members of my Dad's crew either sitting inside or on top of FW 190 # 175140 that were taken on one of those trips. They are not dated.

    So...I know that they were lucky fellows that the booby trap didn't blow up when they were sitting on it. I'm just trying to nail down when the detonation occurred.

    My next step I think is to research US casualty records to see if I can find any casualties at Melsbroek between 25 Sep and 10 Oct 44 (the first day my Dad was there and then when the report was dated). The detonation must have occurred during that interval at some point.

    Thanks again.
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    Default Re: Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    Hi Mike,

    I checked the first version of the article David sent to us for editing, and unfortunately, he did not have footnotes showing exactly what sources he used. I also checked the ORBs of Nos. 439 and 440 Squadrons, but no hints in there either. Probably not useful, but interesting, is this aerial shot of the airfield from October 1944: https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ject/205045119. Good luck in your research!

    Cheers,
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    Default Re: Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    Thanks Andrew,

    I noticed the 439/440 Sqn references in the article and checked their ORBs as well. Great minds think alike. :-)

    The report lists the aircraft as “burned and looted”, which would align with the booby trap story. Although in fairness I would think a 500 lb bomb would do more than burn the aircraft.

    I guess I’ll have to keep digging. I’ll see if I can locate any other Squadrons that were based there at that time.

    Thanks again!
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    Default Re: Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    This might be a bit cumbersome, but these great scanned report on the US National Archives list the weekly burials in NW Europe. I'm just not sure this link will bring you to what I see on my screen,

    https://catalog.archives.gov/search?...lication%2Fpdf

    There are 90 PDF files there of weekly reports. if on any given day you might find a burial of a number of airfield construction troops, something odd like that, that might be a clue. See if the link opens in any case.

    Not sure what the nearest wartime temporary cemetery would have been.
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    Default Re: Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    Report No. 104: October 01, 1944 (215 pages)
    https://catalog.archives.gov/id/28269486

    Report No. 105: October 08, 1944 (192 pages)
    https://catalog.archives.gov/id/28269702
    The above two reports have barely any burials before Sep 25th.

    Report No. 106: October 15, 1944 (180 pages)
    https://catalog.archives.gov/id/28269895


    Report No. 107: October 22, 1944 (146 pages)
    https://catalog.archives.gov/id/28270076
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    Default Re: Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report #255, 10 October 1944.

    Thanks Dennis.

    I’ll definitely take a look through those.

    I also found the American Battlefield Monuments Commission site https://www.abmc.gov/ which is searchable by date.

    It seems there are only 2 WW2 American cemeteries in Belgium, the Ardennes (which consists of 65% US Army Air Force personnel) and Henri-Chapelle.

    Between the site you provided and the ABMC site, I’m a step closer.

    Thanks!
    Mike Anglin

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