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    Default RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    My cousin in law Sgt W H Casson was posted here in 1941.
    There is very little information about this establishment other than it was a secret training base for WRENS
    What was the RAF doing there?
    Any help gratefully received
    He was KIA in 1942 102 squadron
    John B Ashton

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    Default Re: RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    Something to do with Merchant Ship Fighter Unit (MSFU) ? - Hurricanes catapulted off CAM Ships ( Catapult Aircraft Merchant ships )
    The trials work for these ships/aircraft was carried out at Greenock in 1941 - might depend on date of posting ?

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    Default Re: RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    Perhaps unlikely as he was probably a Wireless Op ?

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    Default Re: RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    Yes he was a wireless op/air gunner
    Thank you

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    Default Re: RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    You'll need to know a wee bit more about Sgt Casson's record of service before an informed view on his presence at Greenock can be taken. May I suggest that you apply for his service record from the RAF Disclosures folk at Cranwell?

    There was nothing secret about the RAF's presence at Greenock. It was a flying boast maintenance facility. The MU's stationed there, also repaired RAF boats.

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    Default Re: RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    It was also the base from which - post-WW2 - the Met Office (then part of Air Ministry) Ocean Weather Ship (OWS) system was organised/run.
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    Default Re: RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    Thank you I have.

    These are the movements in his record but just Greenock in August 41 where he stayed for 5 months ?why
    Thank you for your advice and help
    John

    10 SIGNALS RECRUITS CENTRE
    BLACKPOOL
    1ST JANUARY 1941

    2 SIGNALS SCHOOL
    YATESBURY WILTSHIRE
    24TH MAY 1941

    WIRELESS OPERATOR AIR GUNNER
    18TH AUGUST 1941

    GREENOCK
    29TH AUGUST 1941 No more information given

    2 SIGNALS SCHOOL
    4TH MARCH 1942

    8 AGS
    29 MAY 1942

    WIRELESS OPERATOR
    AIR GUNNER 26TH JUNE 1942

    24 OTU
    30TH JUNE 1942
    No. 24 Operational Training Unit RAF
    HONEYBOURNE WORCESTERSHIRE


    102 SQUADRON CONVERSION FLIGHT
    16 SEPTEMBER 1942
    POCKLINGTON

    ACTIVE SERVICE
    102 SQUADRON 30 OCTOBER 1942
    POCKLINGTON

    11th December 1942
    9 Aircraft detailed to attack TURIN
    W7933 up 16.54
    Capt Sgt G J Morgan
    Wireless op/Air Gunner Sgt W H Casson
    Crashed on return all crew killed

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    Default Re: RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    Very difficult to guess from this partial.

    What was his trade progression dates eg when were u/t periods (between which dates)

    Periods of HH before/during/after.

    Strange he was 2 SS before and after - suggests HH waiting for new trade course place.

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    Default Re: RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    I'm going to hazzard a guess that your man was a ground based wireless operator before remustering to aircrew. I say this, as I can't see he could qualified as W/Op Air Gunner on the 18th of August 1941, without having attended a gunnery school. This he does in May / June 1942. As Ross has suggested, more info is required.

    Rgds

    Jonny

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    Default Re: RAF Greenock in 1941 secret base

    Thank you both
    Mustering
    on entry G,D 11/10/40
    19/11/40 ACH/WO/AG gp5
    18/8/40 Wop.ut A G
    26/6/42 Wop/AG

    rank trade proficiency date
    AC2 U/TAG A U/T 31/12/40
    AC2 WOP U/TAG A U/T 31 12 41
    T/SGT WO/AG A SAT B SAT 12/12/42

    Thats all I have,not being service I can only guess the meanings

    I have found in the National Archives
    AIR 28/328
    1940 Sepy 1945 July
    open document

    But it has not been digitised and I cant get to see it personally and its far to big to ask to copy

    Thanks again
    John

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