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    Hi, anyone got details of crew for the following crashes, thanks in advance for any help given.

    31 01 1940 1 aons - anson - n4943 27 03 1944 2 (o) afu - anson - mg395
    21 11 1943 104 otu - wellington - z1313 01 02 1942 220 sqn - hudson - am615
    01 02 1942 206 sqn - hudson - am604 09 06 1941 254 sqn - blenheim - z6025
    07 12 1940 502 sqn - whitley - t4277 16 02 1945 1674 hcu - liberator - ev954
    14 05 1943 86 sqn - liberator - fk234

    also looking for crew positions for the following aircrew:

    20 09 1941 254 sqn blenheim t2128 - ac2 t w vickers 1097025
    01 02 1941 220 sqn hudson am615 - sgt. f c young 404354

    any answers will help with my research into 24 local air crashes, ww2.
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    Hi Fletch,

    N4943 - http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2098
    AM615 or AM604 - http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/war-cemeteries-war-memorial-research/14036-raf-bases-northern-ireland-ww2-3.html
    Z6025 - http://www2.bc.edu/~emerypa/254/SgtJackODonnell.htm

    T2128 - http://www.danishww2pilots.dk/profiles.php?id=51

    Hope this helps a little

    Pavel
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    Fletch,

    Sorry I can't help you, but as a matter of interest do you have anything on on Halifax DT642 of 1674 HCU - crashed at Shane's Castle, Randalstown, shortly after taking off from Aldergrove on 29 July 1944?

    Brian

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    Fletch,

    MG395 - Anson I - 2 (O)AFU:
    Fuel cock problems; engines cut; crashed Bowhill Farm near Dundrod, Co.Down - 01.20 hrs.
    F/Lt R.G. GILLESPIE survived; killed was Sgt Richard H. SPROGUE - RAAF 427266

    Z1313 - Wellington IV - 104 (T)OTU:
    Hit Mount Divis, Co.Antrim - 01.30 hrs.
    Killed were F/Sgt (Pilot) Trevor A. KEMP - NZ422412 and Sgt (Nav) Ebenezer F. LURKINS - 1387934 (wounded and died 25-11-1943).

    Source: 'For Your Tomorrow' (Errol Martyn) - vol.2 - page 165.

    Run out of time; will see later whether I've info on the remaining aircraft losses.

    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Here we go again (most info rcvd via Ross McNeill):

    AM604 - Hudson V - 206 Sqn - VX-J:
    Hit trees unauthorized low flying - crashed near Aldergrove - 11.30 hrs. Killed were:
    P/O Hugh O. FRASER - RAAF 402051
    Sgt Archibald D. CAMPBELL - RAAF 400858
    Sgt Geoffrey T. KETTLE - 913612
    Sgt Philip A. FRY - 920055

    T4277 - Whitley V - 502 Sqn - YG-J:
    Bad weather conditions - crashed in the Ballykelly area - 18.50 hrs. Killed were:
    F/Lt Charles W. REES - 90050
    F/O Michael L. WORTHINGTON - 76024
    Sgt William A. ADAMS - 564507
    Sgt Patrick J. MILLER - 625296
    Sgt V.S. BROWN - 816242 survived (wounded)

    EV954 - Liberator GR.VI - 1674 HCU:
    Hit hill near Collinvale, mile NW of Ballyclaire, Co.Antrim. Killed were:
    Sgt John E. MORGAN - 992269
    F/Lt Kenneth D. FAULKNER - dfc - 78086
    F/O Allan F. WHITNEY - RCAF J/44099
    F/O Ernest R. MATTHEWS - 159166
    F/O Peter G. SIM - MiD -149164
    Sgt Albert BLADON - 2206239
    Sgt Henry E. BENWELL - 2221864.
    Both pilots: F/O Peter C.E. COX - 141720 and P/O Garrett J. FENWICK - RAAF436200 and also Sgt William HOWDEN - 1624424 survived.

    FK234 - Liberator III - 86 Sqn - BX-W:
    Gained insufficient height taking off from Aldergrove and crashed Edge of Crumlin. Killed were:
    S/Ldr Dennis F. WYKEHAM-MARTIN - DFC - 72587 (died the day after)
    Sgt John McK. LESLIE - 1346156
    Sgt Henry B. LITTLE - 1099718
    P/O Henry F. BURNEY - 145808
    F/Sgt William G. McGHEE - DFM - 965726
    W/O Harold L. CARTER - 1378716.
    P/O S. NEAL and F/Sgt A.L. COWAN survived the accident.

    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Hello Brian,
    DT642 - Halifax II - 1674 HCU:
    Crashed on take-off Masarene Estate (Shane's Castle) NW of Aldergrove. Killed were:
    W/O Lambert W. LENZ - RCAF R/107081
    Sgt John H. EDWARDS - 1377545
    Sgt Reginald W. COOK - 2207562
    F/Sgt Harold V. HEATON - RCAF R/164292
    Sgt Edward R. TURRILL - 1321277
    Sgt Jack L. SNIDER - RCAF R/200675
    F/O Gordon FRASER - RCAF J/29239
    Sgt Leonard M. HEMBRUFF - RCAF R/184294
    Sgt Graham N. THOMAS - 1875685 (Meteo Office Aldergrove)

    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Hi everyone, thanks Henk, Lyffe, Cz-raf for quick prompt replies, much appreciated, great work Henk thanks again for your time and effort. Mervyn.
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    Hi Lyffe, yes i do have a good account of this crash as it occurred in my local area, see Henks crew list above, it agrees with my list for - dt 642, i have written a number of reports but can not post it as attachment so will provide as much information as i can.

    first crew details - lenz, edwards, - pilots. cook - flt engr. heaton - navigator. thomas -observer. turril - w-op mech. / ag. snider, fraser,hembruff - w-op / ag.
    fraser + hembruff buried st. catherine, killead,Co. Antrim. lenz + heaton + snider buried in Glenavy roman catholic, Co. Antrim. lenz from saskatchewan,canada. heaton + snider + hembruff from ontario, canada. fraser from Br. Columbia,canada. edwards from luton.
    cook from newcastle-upon-tyne. thomas from newport. turril from woodstock.

    crash details - crash site does not agree with Henks, there is a shanes castle, randalstown but this is not the site of the crash according to my information, the crash site is on the edge of my home town, Antrim, as told by a local fireman who attended the scene, as reported in the local paper. This report follows -

    aircraft, halifax mk2, DT 642, took off from aldergrove for a routine training flight, when over the castle grounds in Antrim the aircraft turned suddenly and lost height and the wings clipped large trees at clotworthy house,the wings were torn off and the stricken craft was catapulted across the sixmile river coming to rest at what is now the site of the Antrim forum. The massive explosion sents sheets of flames into the air, a fire crew was sent to tackle the fire, when it had died down the wreckage could be investigated, one body was found, and within a few minutes five more found, one with a opened parachute on, at day break three more bodies found on the other side of the river. At first light a senior airman came to see the crash scene and identify the bodies.There was a stark reminder of the crash six months later when a bomb was found close to the site of the crash, two officers from aldergrove worked on the bomb, it was eventually detonated.

    This is a slightly edited version. regards Mervyn.

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    Many thanks Mervyn. I'll email you.

    Brian

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