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    Default Liberator AM259 / USSR A-20

    The following Wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preproduction_B-24 gives the loss of Liberator AM259 (G-AGCD) as caused by a midair collision with a USSR A-20 on 5 January 1943.
    I have it that the Lib was struck off charge at Dorval in November 1945.

    Could someone please comfirm one or the other?

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    Hi Peter,

    not much info about this plane.
    In RAF Serials by Air Britain is no fate but they just published a new books about Liberators - THE LIBERATOR IN RAF AND COMMONWEALTH SERVICE - I suppose there you can find more.

    At http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/1940.html is the same fate as you mentioned:

    697 (c/n 168) to RAF as AM259, later to G-AGCD with BOAC. In midair collision with USSR DB-7 Jan 5, 1943.

    Pavel

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    Peter
    This week Air Britain published "The Liberator in RAF and Commonwealth Service" by Oughton, Hamlin and Thomas ISBN 0 85130 362 5 see
    https://www.air-britain.co.uk/actboo...ew_Books_.html

    The book has quite a long entry for AM259 which confirms that it was re-registered as G-AGCD with BOAC on 19.4.41; the a/c made the first Prestwick/Moscow return flight on 21/29.10.42 and continued to be involved in Moscow flights during 1943; it was damaged in an accident at Prestwick on 15.5.43 but was repaired and returned to ferry and special operations; it was retired to the RAF on 6.7.44 and following service with 231Sqn was SOC on 7.11.45.

    It seems that if it did collide with a Russian A-20 then it was at Prestwick? There is no entry in the AB history that seems to coincide with 5.1.43.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBrooking View Post
    Peter
    This week Air Britain published "The Liberator in RAF and Commonwealth Service" by Oughton, Hamlin and Thomas ISBN 0 85130 362 5 see
    https://www.air-britain.co.uk/actboo...ew_Books_.html

    The book has quite a long entry for AM259 which confirms that it was re-registered as G-AGCD with BOAC on 19.4.41; the a/c made the first Prestwick/Moscow return flight on 21/29.10.42 and continued to be involved in Moscow flights during 1943; it was damaged in an accident at Prestwick on 15.5.43 but was repaired and returned to ferry and special operations; it was retired to the RAF on 6.7.44 and following service with 231Sqn was SOC on 7.11.45.

    It seems that if it did collide with a Russian A-20 then it was at Prestwick? There is no entry in the AB history that seems to coincide with 5.1.43.

    Steve
    Steve, Pavel,

    Many thanks for pointing me in the direction of the above book, I hadn't realised it had been published yet, its been a long time coming, needless to say I have just ordered my copy. James Oughton has been a respected expert on the Lib in British service for a long time.

    Regards
    Peter.
    Last edited by peter; 9th December 2007 at 15:22.

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