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    Default Coastal command lost liberator

    I have come across an entry in my late father's log book:

    'Night of Feb 26/27 1945 F/O Ponting and Crew missing in Skaggerak. Presumed shot down in flames by enemy vessel.'

    The plane was a liberator flying out of either St Eval or Milltown (squadron 224). My father was the co-pilot but did not fly this mission. I would like to find out more about this loss.
    As I am new to this type of research could someone help direct me?

    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by Kingston; 25th September 2008 at 22:22. Reason: updated info

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    Hi,

    KG964 of No.224 Sqn, coded XB-G

    F/Sgt J J Williams
    Sgt M G Bliss
    P/O L A Chadwick RCAF
    F/Sgt J L Gallipeau
    F/Sgt C Jackson
    F/O R W Ponting
    Sgt G W Carter
    F/Sgt T E Murphy RCAF
    F/Sgt R F Hadlow

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    This aircraft briefly mentioned here on the old forum.

    http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?forum=DCForumID6&mark=9231&az=next_top ic&archive=yes

    You can check all of these mens details on the CWGC website, www.cwgc.org

    F/Sgt J L Gallipeau is RCAF also, serial number R/195678, Son of George A. and Mary A. Gallipeau, of Smiths Falls, Ontario, Canada

    If you want then you can obtain the service files of the three Canadians from the national archives of Canada.

    Personnel Records Unit,
    Library and Archives Canada,
    395 Wellington Street,
    Ottawa,
    ON K1A 0N3

    Ask for the three and you should be able to get them for free, a very good service.

    Dennis
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    Liberator KG964 GRVIII; ex 44-10469; delivered Dorval 31.7.44; to Gander - Prestwick 6-8-44; to Scotish Aviation Ltd Prestwick 9.8.44; delivered 224 Squadron (XB-D) 29.11.44. Failed to return from anti-submarine patrol over Skagerrack 26-2 45; Struck Off Charge 8-3-45.

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    Thank you so much for this info. Much appreciated
    Regards Andrew Kingston

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    Default Coastal command lost liberator - Flying Officer R W Ponting

    My uncle (mother's brother) was Flying Office Reginald William Ponting and we are still trying to seek information regarding this flight. We have been to RAF Milltown from where the flight flew on the night but would still like to know more. Today my brother has visited the grave in Sweden, of Flight Sergeant Joseph Leo Gallipeau, whose body was washed ashore, hence I came across your bulletin. I know it was time ago now but if anyone wishes to contact me then my brother and I would be most grateful.

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    Hello Lynn,

    if you have not done so already, you shoudl obtain a copy of F/Sgt J L Gallipeau RCAF's service file from the Canadian archvies, this will contain the best (hopefully) contempory records. See my post above.

    beyond that, I think the forum provided all they could on the loss above.

    if your replying on the thread, please don't hit the "reply with quote" button, as this just dupicates text.

    best of luck.
    Dennis
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    Default Contacting a Guest re 224 Squadron

    Would there be any way that I may contact, or that you can pass my contact details onto Andrew Kingston who wrote as a Guest on the 25th September 2008, as I am very interested in contacting him regarding his father being co-pilot to my uncle in Squadron 224. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanking you in advance. Lynn Buckland

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    Hi Lynn,

    I can answer this as I was administrator for the board at the time.

    The board automatically sends post notification emails when requested to the recorded email address on the user account.

    When several of these are bounced back as undelivered I considered that the email address was no longer in use and removed the details.

    This was done by making the account a guest and preserving the posts.

    So the address the board held is longer valid for the user and the current admin staff have no means of contact with the user.

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    Hello,

    A bit more detail on the loss of KG964:

    25/26-2-1945
    No.224 Sqn.
    Liberator VIII KG964:XB-D

    Took off 2207 Milltown on the 25th, with a load of ten 250lb depth charges, detailed to carry out an anti-submarine patrol in the vicinity of the Swedish coast. Nothing was heard from the aircraft after take off, and it did not return to base*.

    144782 F/O (Capt./Pilot) Reginald William PONTING RAFVR +
    1801251 F/Sgt (2nd Pilot) Ronald HADLOW RAFVR +
    AUS420022 F/L (1st Nav.) Claude MAPLETOFT RAAF +
    J/95233 P/O (2nd Nav.) Leslie Anwyl CHADWICK RCAF +
    1064874 F/Sgt (Flt. Eng.) John James WILLIAMS RAFVR +
    R/189573 F/Sgt (W.Op.[Air]) Thomas Edward MURPHY RCAF +
    R/195678 F/Sgt (W.Op.[Air]) Joseph Leo GALLIPEAU RCAF +
    658750 F/Sgt (W.Op.[Air]) Cyril JACKSON RAF +
    1881845 Sgt (Air Gnr.) Maurice George BLISS RAFVR +
    2209857 Sgt (Air Gnr.) Dafydd Cynfal DAVIES RAFVR + (listed on CWGC as No.244 Sqn.)
    1899789 Sgt (Air Gnr.) Gilbert William CARTER RAFVR +

    The remains of F/Sgt Gallipeau RCAF, were washed ashore at Varberg on the Swedish west coast and buried in Varberg Church New Cemetery. The remaining 10 crew members are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

    * Liberator XB-P of the same squadron reported a loud explosion at 0304 hours, which may have been KG964 blowing up. The crew of XB-P also reported the presence of a so-called 'Sperr Brecher' (a ship equipped with ant-aircraft guns and other artillery) in the area, and reported light flak passing over their aircraft. This may have been what caused the the loss of KG964 (AIR27/1389)

    See:
    'Making For Sweden...' Part 1- The RAF 1939 to 1945.
    Wegmann,Rolph & Bo Widfeldt.
    Walton-on-Thames:Air Research Publications,1997.
    pp.225-6

    Col.
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