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    Default Coastal command lost liberator

    I have come across an entry in my late father's log book:

    'Night of Feb 26/27 1945 F/O Ponting and Crew missing in Skaggerak. Presumed shot down in flames by enemy vessel.'

    The plane was a liberator flying out of either St Eval or Milltown (squadron 224). My father was the co-pilot but did not fly this mission. I would like to find out more about this loss.
    As I am new to this type of research could someone help direct me?

    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by Kingston; 25th September 2008 at 22:22. Reason: updated info

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    Hi,

    KG964 of No.224 Sqn, coded XB-G

    F/Sgt J J Williams
    Sgt M G Bliss
    P/O L A Chadwick RCAF
    F/Sgt J L Gallipeau
    F/Sgt C Jackson
    F/O R W Ponting
    Sgt G W Carter
    F/Sgt T E Murphy RCAF
    F/Sgt R F Hadlow

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    This aircraft briefly mentioned here on the old forum.

    http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?forum=DCForumID6&mark=9231&az=next_top ic&archive=yes

    You can check all of these mens details on the CWGC website, www.cwgc.org

    F/Sgt J L Gallipeau is RCAF also, serial number R/195678, Son of George A. and Mary A. Gallipeau, of Smiths Falls, Ontario, Canada

    If you want then you can obtain the service files of the three Canadians from the national archives of Canada.

    Personnel Records Unit,
    Library and Archives Canada,
    395 Wellington Street,
    Ottawa,
    ON K1A 0N3

    Ask for the three and you should be able to get them for free, a very good service.

    Dennis
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    Liberator KG964 GRVIII; ex 44-10469; delivered Dorval 31.7.44; to Gander - Prestwick 6-8-44; to Scotish Aviation Ltd Prestwick 9.8.44; delivered 224 Squadron (XB-D) 29.11.44. Failed to return from anti-submarine patrol over Skagerrack 26-2 45; Struck Off Charge 8-3-45.

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    Thank you so much for this info. Much appreciated
    Regards Andrew Kingston

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    The unit most likely involved in the loss of KG964 would be 3. Sperrbrecherflotille, the vessels of which, operated in the area in which the Liberator was lost.

    http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/km/spbr1-8.htm

    Col.
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    Thank you for the pointer, Col.

    Following on from your post I posted a request for help on the Marine Archiv forum at http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf...p?action=forum. The forum normally deals with German maritime matters but, strangely, the responses have all been in respect of Luftwaffe activity (not helped by the fact that my initial post quoted the wrong date - 26/27 Feb, rather than the 25/26).

    No matter, at the time of writing there has not been any response in respect of a Deutsche Kriegsmarine claim for the early hours of 26 February, which introduces the possibility that KG964 was lost through a cause other than enemy action.

    There was a full moon, and it looks as though the Skaggerak was covered by a fresh, showery, westerly flow - nothing, on the face of it, untoward.

    Does anyone have the 224 Squadron ORB that might shed light on the actual weather?

    As an aside the forum moderater drew my attention to the Airwar over Denmark website at http://www.flensted.eu.com/1945000.shtml. This covers Allied and German losses over Denmark and surrounding waters for the whole war and could, I think, prove useful to anyone interested in this area.

    Brian

    PS. Try this story for instance http://www.flensted.eu.com/1944034.shtml and http://www.flensted.eu.com/194121.shtml
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    Default Coastal command lost liberator - Flying Officer R W Ponting

    My uncle (mother's brother) was Flying Office Reginald William Ponting and we are still trying to seek information regarding this flight. We have been to RAF Milltown from where the flight flew on the night but would still like to know more. Today my brother has visited the grave in Sweden, of Flight Sergeant Joseph Leo Gallipeau, whose body was washed ashore, hence I came across your bulletin. I know it was time ago now but if anyone wishes to contact me then my brother and I would be most grateful.

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    Hello Lynn,

    if you have not done so already, you shoudl obtain a copy of F/Sgt J L Gallipeau RCAF's service file from the Canadian archvies, this will contain the best (hopefully) contempory records. See my post above.

    beyond that, I think the forum provided all they could on the loss above.

    if your replying on the thread, please don't hit the "reply with quote" button, as this just dupicates text.

    best of luck.
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    Default Contacting a Guest re 224 Squadron

    Would there be any way that I may contact, or that you can pass my contact details onto Andrew Kingston who wrote as a Guest on the 25th September 2008, as I am very interested in contacting him regarding his father being co-pilot to my uncle in Squadron 224. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanking you in advance. Lynn Buckland

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