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    Default Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    I'm struggling to identify an aircraft, presumably an Atlas of 26 Sqn, that was written off on 13 May 1932, based upon the following newspaper report in the Hull Daily Mail on 14 May 1932:

    PLANE ON FIRE

    Pilot's Amazing Escape Near Thorne

    An R.A.F. pilot had a miraculous escape at Beanswood Green,
    two miles from Thorne, yesterday, when an aeroplane in making
    a forced landing overturned twice and caught fire.

    Fortunately the 'plane landed close to a roadside garage, and the
    mechanics rushed to the spot, fought the flames with sods of grass
    and water, and eventually put them out with an extinguisher from
    a motor-car. In the meantime the pilot, Sergeant Roy Nelson, had
    been dragged to safety uninjured and little the worse for his
    unnerving experience.

    The machine was sufficiently damaged to prevent it resuming its
    journey from Surrey to Thornaby-on-Tees. It was massing over the
    district about noon, and the pilot, owing to poor visibility, decided to
    make a landing to obtain his bearings.


    The pilot, Roy Nelson, was originally posted to 26 Sqn as a LAC FAE, but remustered to u/t pilot somewhere between 1929 and 1932. Circumstantial evidence suggests the accident occurred to an aircraft of 26 Sqn, but I am happy to be corrected.

    Can anyone identify the aircraft and its serial, please?

    Many thanks
    Steve
    41 (F) Squadron RAF at War and Peace, April 1916-March 1946
    http://brew.clients.ch/41sqnraf.htm

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    Default Re: Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    Roy or Ray Nelson ?

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    Default Re: Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    Hey Paul

    Roy, according to the newspaper report, which fits with Roy Nelson who was on 26 Sqn initially as a LAC FAE, according to his AIR79 file, and was subsequently on 41 Sqn as a Sgt Plt. KAOS Montrose, 18 Jul 40.

    Why? Do you have a different name attached to this accident?

    Thanks
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    Default Re: Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    Looks like his service record has Ray or typo on transposing

    CWGC

    FLIGHT SERGEANT
    ROY NELSON
    Service Number: 560353
    Regiment & Unit/Ship
    Royal Air Force

    Date of Death
    Died 18 July 1940

    Age 31 years old

    Buried or commemorated at
    DARLINGTON WEST CEMETERY

    Sec. T.4W. Grave 3


    Service Record Find My Past Index (Air 79 ?)

    1 result
    First name(s) Last name Birth year Birth county Attestation year Service number Occupation
    Ray
    Nelson
    1909
    Durham
    1927
    560353
    Scholar


    Air 78 (from forces records) assume typo on Service numberhave now looked at Air 78 Card

    Viewed First NameOrder by First Name Surname Service Number Rank Record Year Unit
    R Nelson 560363 1926 Royal Air Force
    Can't find who you're looking for? Click here for help


    Scotlands People Death Registration

    Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year Ref RD Name Image View
    NELSON
    ROY
    31
    1940
    312/ 145
    Montrose

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    Default Re: Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    OK Roy it is - Find My Past has name typo

    Chris Hobson

    Name: Roy Nelson
    Rank: Flight Sergeant
    Death Age: 31
    Birth Year: abt 1909
    Death Date: 18 Jul 1940
    Military Base: Montrose, Angus
    Service Number: 560353
    Unit: 8 Service Fts
    Command: Flying Training Cmnd
    Occupation: Pilot
    Casualty: Killed in action Gr
    Residence Place: Darlington, Durham
    Burial Place: Darlington West Cemetery, Durham
    Notes: Killed in an Enemy Air Raid on Montrose Airfield, Possibly While Sitting in Master N7562 Awaiting Take Off

    Ancestry (Air 79)

    Name: Roy Nelson
    Gender: Male
    Age: 18
    Birth Date: 9 Jun 1909
    Birth Place: Stranton, West Hartlepool, Durham, England
    Service Date: 9 Jun 1927
    Service Number: 560353
    Father: R. Nelson
    Next of Kin: R. Nelson
    Relation to Airman: Father

    Free BMD

    Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
    Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
    Nelson Roy Hartlepool 10a 147 Scan available - click to view

    See also

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...=8511#post8511

    Looks like
    Corporal Stanley Edward FLOYD (362380) may have been pupil..

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    Default Re: Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    Thanks Paul, yes, that's the man I assume was the pilot of the aircraft that overturned near Thorne.

    Do you want a copy of the article and AIR79 file, or is it outside the scope of your database (only bale-outs?)?

    I wonder if there is an Atlas production list, like those existing for Spitfires, that shows every serial and its fate...?

    I was surprised to find this article, which I came across by accident, but am now struggling to find anything else about it. It's also not included in the ASN database.

    To be fair, I am making an assumption it was a 26 Sqn aircraft that was involved in the accident, given (1) Nelson's previous posting to the Sqn as an FAE, and (2) the pilot's reported destination, Thornaby-on-Tees. As such, I have also assumed that it was an Atlas aircraft that he was flying, which is what 26 Sqn was equipped with at the time. In any case, I am always happy to be corrected, as I currently cannot find any aircraft matching an accident of this nature on that date.

    Cheers
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    Default Re: Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    Hello

    Just a slight amendment to the article quoted in post #1 - it's Bearswood Green, not Beanswood.

    Regards

    Simon
    Researching R.A.F. personnel from the North East of England

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    Default Re: Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    One newspaper says "The aviator Sergeant Roy Nelson, and he was travelling from Kenley aerodrome." an destination was Thornaby-on-Tees
    maybe RAF Thornaby ???

    I wonder if it was a delivery flight to 608 Sqn ?
    Last edited by paulmcmillan; 13th April 2022 at 14:16.

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    Default Re: Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    Steve
    Not much help but I've looked through the AB J Serials and K Serials and I cannot see anything in their lists that seems to connect for an Atlas. There is certainly no written off date that might connect with 13/5/42. Perhaps the aircraft was repaired?
    Steve

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    Default Re: Seeking serial of 26 Sqn Atlas written off in accident, 13 May 32

    Thanks for clarifying, Simon. I could find Thorne on the map but couldn't find any reference to 'Beanswood Green'.



    Thanks Paul, may I ask which newspaper report you're referring to? I haven't been able to find any other reports aside from the one in my original post.

    Also, you may be right re 608 & Thornaby. Blasted ORBs seem to be so class-oriented and NCO pilots often get little to no mention, making it extremely difficult to find them. No mention of him in the 26 or 608 Sqn ORBs, unfortunately.



    Steve, thanks for the look-up. May I trouble you to check Wapiti serials (608 Sqn) for the same date, please? Are they available online or are you referring to a hardcopy doc you have?



    Cheers
    Steve
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