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    Default 401007 - Unaccounted Airmen - 07-10-1940

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    401007 - Unaccounted Airmen - 07-10-1940

    From Henk's List -

    UK
    CROSS, John Davies - Sgt - 742933 - RAFVR.
    Pontardawe(All Saints) Churchyard, Glamorganshire.
    PAINTER, Kenneth-Lac - 645628 - RAF.
    Honington (All Saints) Churchyard, Suffolk.
    POUND, George Edward - AC2c - 1055450 - RAFVR.
    Far Forest (Holy Trinity) Churchyard, Rock, Worcestershire.
    WHEELER, Kenneth George - Lac - 621799 - RAF.
    Cambridge City Cemetery, Cambridgeshire.
    These four airmen were crew of Wellington I - L7896 - 9 Sqn.

    HUNT, Edmund George - W/O - 359883 - RAF - GM.
    Chatham (Palmerston Road) Cemetery, Kent.
    Killed while attempting to defuse a bomb.

    From CWGC -

    GERMANY
    GREEN, Herbert Frederick - Sgt - 742028 - RAFVR.
    HOLLIDAY, George - Sgt - 936348 - RAFVR.
    O'REGAN, Francis Patrick - Sgt - 747713 - RAFVR.
    STEPHENS, Reginald - Sgt - 749413 - RAFVR.
    TAYLOR, Rex Oliver Oxley - Sqn/Ldr - 22092 - RAFVR.
    WHELPTON, Harry - Sgt - 751267 - RAFVR.
    These six airmen rest at Berlin 1939-1945 War Cemetery, Berlin.
    They were crew of Wellington Ic - P9287 - 38 Sqn.

    UK
    HARRIS, Richard Waugh - P/O - 42988 - RAF.
    HARVEY, Marcus Rudolph - Sgt - 936278 - RAFVR.
    These two airmen rest at Newton-on-Ouse, (All Saints) Churchyard, Yorkshire.
    They were crew of Lysander III - R9056 - 4 Sqn.

    BARRY, Nathaniel John Merriman (SouthAfrican) - F/O - 72514 - RAFVR .
    Finghall (St.Andrew) Churchyard, Yorkshire.
    Hurricane I - V6800 - 501 Sqn.

    BEEDHAM, Joseph Jeffery Ian - P/O - 84943 - RAFVR.
    Glenavy Roman Catholic Churchyard, County Antrum, UK.
    Hurricane I - N2707 - 245 Sqn.

    BRIDGE, James Frederick - F/O - 77783 - RAFVR.
    Bedford Cemetery, Bedfordshire.
    KISSNER, Jack Henry - Lac - 938026 - RAFVR.
    Cranfield (SS.Peter and Paul) Churchyard, Bedfordshire.
    These two airmen were crew of Oxford II - N4729 - 14 SFTS.

    BROADHURST, John William - P/O - 41898 - RAF.
    Hornchurch Cemetery, Essex.
    Spitfire Ia - P9469 - 222 Sqn.

    DIFFORD, Ivor Benison (South African) - F/O - 39865 - RAF .
    Tangmere (St.Andrew) Churchyard, Sussex.
    Hurricane I - P2770 - 609 Sqn.

    ENGLISH, Charles Edward - P/O - 77791 - RAF.
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne (St.Andrews and Jesmond)Cemetery, Northumberland.
    Hurricane I - P3677 - 607 Sqn.

    FEARY, Allan Norman - Sgt - 742301 - RAFVR.
    Warmwell (Holy Trinity) Churchyard, Dorset.
    Spitfire Ia - N3238 - 609 Sqn.

    MATTHEWS, Henry Key Fielding - F/O - 40551 - RAF.
    Beckenham Crematorium and Cemetery, Kent.
    Whitley V - K9087 - 603 Sqn.

    OLDHAM, Dennis Henry - Lac - 1152047 - RAFVR.
    Harrow Cemetery, Middlesex.
    Master I - N7876 - 5 SFTS.

    WHALL, Basil Ewart Patrick - Sgt - 740484 - RAFVR.
    Amersham Consecrated Cemetery, Buckinghamshire.
    Spitfire Ia - X4160 - 602 Sqn.

    HOSKIN, Michael Covernton - Lt - HMS Daedalus - RN.
    ROSE - RICHARDS, Thomas Essery - Lt(A) - HMS Daedalus - RN.
    These two Naval Airmen are Commemorated on the Lee-on-Solent Memorial, Hampshire.
    They were crew of Walrus - Serial number unknown - 765 Sqn FAA, RN.
    Henk has Y0133.
    Could the Walrus have been X1046, ex L2309 which was SS 11th October, 40 ?

    BACHMANN, Josef - GAF.
    HERZOG, Karl - GAF.
    LEGE, Paul - GAF.
    SCHILLING, Herbert - GAF.
    These four German Airmen rest at Cannock Chase German Military Cemetery, Staffordshire.
    Cause of death ?

    REPIK, Josef - GAF.
    SIDOW, Kurt - GAF.
    These two German Airmen rest at Brookwood Military Cemetery, Surrey.
    Cause of death ?

    Alex

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    Default Re: 401007 - Unaccounted Airmen - 07-10-1940

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
    HOSKIN, Michael Covernton - Lt - HMS Daedalus - RN.
    ROSE - RICHARDS, Thomas Essery - Lt(A) - HMS Daedalus - RN.
    These two Naval Airmen are Commemorated on the Lee-on-Solent Memorial, Hampshire.
    They were crew of Walrus - Serial number unknown - 765 Sqn FAA, RN.
    Henk has Y0133.
    Could the Walrus have been X1046, ex L2309 which was SS 11th October, 40 ?
    I think that the SS in that context refers to Storage Section. There is also a later date of 15.3.44 in the FAA Serials book, so I don't think that X1046 is the aircraft we're looking for sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
    MATTHEWS, Henry Key Fielding - F/O - 40551 - RAF.
    Beckenham Crematorium and Cemetery, Kent.
    Whitley V - K9087 - 603 Sqn.
    This was a Spitfire, the serial should read K9807 (error in AIR81/3674).
    However, there is debate surrounding the losses of K9807, K9963, N3109 as per your thread at:
    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...nd-which-Pilot
    I'm not sure that this has been conclusively resolved yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
    ENGLISH, Charles Edward - P/O - 77791 - RAF.
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne (St.Andrews and Jesmond)Cemetery, Northumberland.
    Hurricane I - P3677 - 607 Sqn.
    This was a 605 Sqn loss: http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=P3677

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    Default Re: 401007 - Unaccounted Airmen - 07-10-1940

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
    DIFFORD, Ivor Benison (South African) - F/O - 39865 - RAF .
    Tangmere (St.Andrew) Churchyard, Sussex.
    Hurricane I - P2770 - 609 Sqn.
    This is another loss in the "not entirely straightforward" category.
    Firstly, I don't think P2770 ever served with 609 Sqn.
    It seems from the discussion here: http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...956#post118956
    that the two aircraft involved in the mid-air collision in which Difford lost his life were L1728 and P3860.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
    CROSS, John Davies - Sgt - 742933 - RAFVR.
    Pontardawe(All Saints) Churchyard, Glamorganshire.
    PAINTER, Kenneth-Lac - 645628 - RAF.
    Honington (All Saints) Churchyard, Suffolk.
    POUND, George Edward - AC2c - 1055450 - RAFVR.
    Far Forest (Holy Trinity) Churchyard, Rock, Worcestershire.
    WHEELER, Kenneth George - Lac - 621799 - RAF.
    Cambridge City Cemetery, Cambridgeshire.
    These four airmen were crew of Wellington I - L7896 - 9 Sqn.
    No, they weren't crew. This 99 Sqn aircraft (flown by a 149 Sqn crew) crashed on landing at Honington, killing some 9 Sqn airmen working on the flarepath:
    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...rmen-7-10-1940

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    Default Re: 401007 - Unaccounted Airmen - 07-10-1940

    The Germans:

    BACHMANN, Josef - GAF. >> pilot of Bf110C-4 3564/3U+JT of 8./ZG26, shot down and force-landed Corfe Castle. Gunner was made POW.
    HERZOG, Karl - GAF. >> crew of Bf110C-7 3418/3U+JP of 6./ZG26, shot down over Somerset
    LEGE, Paul - GAF. >> pilot of Bf109E-7 3881 of 5./JG27, shot down over Sussex
    SCHILLING, Herbert - GAF. >> crew of Bf110C-7 3418/3U+JP of 6./ZG26, shot down over Somerset
    These four German Airmen rest at Cannock Chase German Military Cemetery, Staffordshire.

    REPIK, Josef - GAF.
    SIDOW, Kurt - GAF.
    These two German Airmen rest at Brookwood Military Cemetery, Surrey.
    >> crew of Bf110C-4 3283/3U+_T (3U+BT or 3U+DT?) of 8./ZG26, shot down over Dorset.

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    Default Re: 401007 - Unaccounted Airmen - 07-10-1940

    Alex

    Hurricane P2770 should read L1728 of 607S ABS and BoBT&N. P2770 was not lost until 7/ November 1940.

    Hurricane P3677 was of 605S ditto

    DaveW

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    Default Re: 401007 - Unaccounted Airmen - 07-10-1940

    Dave,
    Something is still not right here.
    According to the 145 Sqn ORB, the machine in which F/O Weir was lost on 7 Nov 40 was P2720, as here: http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?uniq=P2720
    I'll continue in a separate thread.
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    Default Re: 401007 - Unaccounted Airmen - 07-10-1940

    Thank you both, Andy and Dave for highlighting the details of those airmen and aircraft serials and offering the correct information.
    Much appreciated
    Alex

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