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    Default New to me RAF Form 659 - Aka RAF Airman Death Certificate

    All just had access to an Air 81 file and it includes (new to me) a 2 part RAF Form 659 - which is best described as an RAF Airman Death Certificate - basic details are below - has anyone ever seen this before - could not find anything on Google ? - I wonder if they are still a round - it would certainly fill some missing gaps!

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    ROYAL AIR FORCE 659
    Report of Death of an Airman to be forwarded to the Air Ministry immediately after the date of Death

    Page 1
    No
    Rank
    Unit,
    Names
    Date of Birth
    Trade,
    Enlisted (Where and When)
    Death (Date, Place, Cause)
    Account (or in Indian Casualty Return
    Will


    Page 2
    Annuity
    Medals
    Married
    Widow Address (and Children)
    NoK
    NoK Notification Date
    Signed Commanding Officer
    Station and Date

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    Default Re: New to me RAF Form 659 - Aka RAF Airman Death Certificate

    Hi Paul,

    RAFAHB said in response to a query I raised on the subject that a number have survived in Casualty Files (I found quite a few in NAA files for RAAF fatalities in european theatre - which triggered the request).

    However they went on to say that they were currently considered Medical/Personal Information and as such not released due to requirements of GDPR.

    Although, if prepared to do the ping pong letters/reviews etc, you could argue GDPR applies only to living not dead I considered that after the redaction of essentially most of page 2 - what was left I could get from other sources.

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    Ross

    Thanks for this! - I think you are right most of the info can be found from other sources - what was interesting was the page 1 stuff (page 2 stuff more personal information, children could still be alive) - including cause of death in my case 'Flying Accident on 4 January 1940' at RAF Montrose

    AIR81/1769 Oxford II N4721 Sergeant T Watkins: killed; aircraft accident, Oxford N4721, 8 Flying Training School, 4 January 1940

    Sergeant Thomas WATKINS (741568) Pilot (Under Training)



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    Default Re: New to me RAF Form 659 - Aka RAF Airman Death Certificate

    Surely the Form 659 became the casualty card ? Same basic information

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    Default Re: New to me RAF Form 659 - Aka RAF Airman Death Certificate

    Yup.

    But as always information was stored in duplicate places in the archive - along with additional to suit the purpose of that record.

    As a fatality associated with an aircraft crash F1180 gives

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/fti7h82g93...82%29.JPG?dl=0

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/dyuyherjgv...82%29.JPG?dl=0


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    Default Re: New to me RAF Form 659 - Aka RAF Airman Death Certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by jonheyworth View Post
    Surely the Form 659 became the casualty card ? Same basic information
    Jon probably - but Form 659 would have been the first piece of official documentation - and completed by Unit.. do you know the form number for a RAF Casualty Card

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    Default Re: New to me RAF Form 659 - Aka RAF Airman Death Certificate

    There is also a "Air Force (India) Form 551 - Officer or Airman - Report on Accidental or Self-Inflicted Injuries or Immediate Death Therefrom"

    Seen a bunch of "Casualty Verification Sheet" with no form numbers..
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