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    Default 401104 - Unaccounted Airmen - 04-11-1940

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    401104 - Unaccounted Airmen - 04-11-1940

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    CARRICK, Alexander Sterling - AC2c - 1001528 - RAFVR.
    Darvel New Cemetery, Ayrshire.
    Tiger Moth II - R5019 - 4 FPP. ( See ENSIGN and LAURSEN below, Oxford R6019, But only two fatalities, Ensign(Ersign ?) and Laursen). But Air81/4096 has Three casualties but aircraft as Oxford R5019 ?

    DAVIES, Ilfrick George - Cpl - 938409 - RAFVR.
    Madeley (St.Michael) Churchyard, Shropshire.
    Died from injuries sustained in a motorcycle accident on his way to RAF Penrhos from his home.

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    FORRESTER, Philip Edward - Sgt - 740529 - RAFVR.
    WOOR, Thomas Robert - Sgt - 744940 - RAFVR.
    RAWLINGS, David Pryce - Sgt - 526314 - RAF.
    SMITH, Arthur Timothy - Sgt - 968337 - RAFVR.
    These four airmen rest at the Malta (Capuccini) Naval Cemetery, Malta.
    They were crew of Wellington Ic - R1094 - 148 Sqn(Wellington Flight).

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    ENSIGN (ERSIGN?), Richard Clyde (American) - P/O - 42823 - RAF - 9 EFTS
    LAURSEN, Aaga Vandemar Helstrap - First Officer - ATA.
    These two airmen rest at Hawarden (St.Deiniol) Churchyard, Flintshire.
    They were crew of Tiger Moth II - R5019 - 4 FPP. (See CARRICK, above, I believe that this was an Oxford accident. From ATA Losses Oxford R6019 (It could not be R6109 as this aircraft went to the SAAF from 21st October 1940 )
    Also AB's P1000 - R9999 has R5019 serving with 18 EFTS/18 RFS/19 RFS/ 10 RFS, To 7042M 22.8.53. Nothing of 4 FPP.
    AB's P1000 - R9999 has R6019 - 15 FTS/4FPP - 4.11.40, Flew into hill in advance visibility on ferry flight from Prestwick to Kidlington, Brynford near Holywell, Flint.
    Air81/4096 has Three casualties but aircraft as Oxford R5019 ? Should have Oxford R6019 ?

    CONNOR, Clare Arthur - F/O - 40892 - RAF.
    Brattleby (St.Cuthbert) Churchyard, Lincolnshire.
    NORRIS, Ronald - Sgt - 751289 - RAFVR.
    Scampton (St.John the Baptist) Churchyard, Lincolnshire.

    GIBSON, James William Chesterton - Sgt - 653464 - RAF.
    STUBBINGS, Geoffrey Harry - Sgt - 581045 - RAF.
    These two airmen are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial, Surrey.

    The four airmen named above were crew of Hampden I - L4093 - 83 Sqn.

    MILLER, Ian Malcolm Keith - Sgt - 754480 - RAFVR.
    Thame ( St.Mary) Churchyard, Oxfordshire.
    Spitfire Ia - L1049 - 610 Sqn.

    SONNENBERG, Wolfram Albert August - GAF.
    Cannock Chase German Military Cemetery, Staffordshire.
    Cause of death ?

    Alex

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    Default Re: 401104 - Unaccounted Airmen - 04-11-1940

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
    SONNENBERG, Wolfram Albert August - GAF.
    Cannock Chase German Military Cemetery, Staffordshire.
    Cause of death
    He was the pilot of Do17Z-2 2573 5K+CS of 8./KG3, shot down by Hurricanes of 46 Sqn near Bexley, Kent on the previous day (see that entry for other crew members). He died of his wounds a day later.

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    Default Re: 401104 - Unaccounted Airmen - 04-11-1940

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post
    MILLER, Ian Malcolm Keith - Sgt - 754480 - RAFVR.
    Thame ( St.Mary) Churchyard, Oxfordshire.
    Spitfire Ia - L1049 - 610 Sqn.
    Aircraft was L1094, as per: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C17386849
    I have amended our database, which now shows the correct link between serial and pilot.

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    Default Re: 401104 - Unaccounted Airmen - 04-11-1940

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Smart View Post

    UK
    CARRICK, Alexander Sterling - AC2c - 1001528 - RAFVR.
    Darvel New Cemetery, Ayrshire.
    Tiger Moth II - R5019 - 4 FPP. ( See ENSIGN and LAURSEN below, Oxford R6019, But only two fatalities, Ensign(Ersign ?) and Laursen). But Air81/4096 has Three casualties but aircraft as Oxford R5019 ?

    UK
    ENSIGN (ERSIGN?), Richard Clyde (American) - P/O - 42823 - RAF - 9 EFTS
    LAURSEN, Aaga Vandemar Helstrap - First Officer - ATA.
    These two airmen rest at Hawarden (St.Deiniol) Churchyard, Flintshire.
    They were crew of Tiger Moth II - R5019 - 4 FPP. (See CARRICK, above, I believe that this was an Oxford accident. From ATA Losses Oxford R6019 (It could not be R6109 as this aircraft went to the SAAF from 21st October 1940 )
    Also AB's P1000 - R9999 has R5019 serving with 18 EFTS/18 RFS/19 RFS/ 10 RFS, To 7042M 22.8.53. Nothing of 4 FPP.
    AB's P1000 - R9999 has R6019 - 15 FTS/4FPP - 4.11.40, Flew into hill in advance visibility on ferry flight from Prestwick to Kidlington, Brynford near Holywell, Flint.
    Air81/4096 has Three casualties but aircraft as Oxford R5019 ? Should have Oxford R6019 ?
    Alex,
    You are quite correct. All three were flying in Oxford R6019. A typo in AIR81/4096 is to blame: https://discovery.nationalarchives.g...ls/r/C16688194
    I have amended our database to show the correct situation.
    Andy

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