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    I thought the following link would be of interest to many, as it shows a full list of BCATP flying training schools in Canada, and includes locations, dates and equipment: http://www.bombercrew.com/BCATP.htm

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    There is a simmilar list on Wikipedia with breif details of many of the training establishments.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Commonwealth_Air_Training_Plan_fac ilities_in_Canada

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    In fact, neither site shows anything like a complete list of Canadian EATS/BCATP training units. The Wikipedia (Wickedpedia?!) site also has errors, but then that's not surprising given the 'pedia's notorious lack of readily accessible author/source info.

    For a comprehensive list see Appendix C (p207-212) of F J Hatch's 'Aerodrome of Democracy'.

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    The list at www.bombercrew seems the most complete, although it only mentions the principal aircraft types, and omits many of the minor types (for example, No. 31 SFTS had an RDF training flight with Ansons, replaced the Battles with Lysanders by 1943, and also had one Walrus and one Tigerschmidt on strength for a long time). It also misses the OTUs, that were under the operational commands for admin, but under the JATP/BCATP for training standards. The RN schools,and a number of trades schools, are also missing.

    Here is a list of what I think is missing, I would love to hear from anyone who could add to it.

    No. 1 OTU Bagotville, Que. Harvard, Lysander, Hurricane, Bolingbroke

    No. 3 OTU Patricia Bay, B.C. Stranraer, Canso, Lysander

    No. 5 OTU Boundary Bay and Abbotsford, BC Liberator, Bolingbroke, Mitchell, Kittyhawk

    No. 31 (later No. 7) OTU Debert, N.S. Hudson, Bolingbroke


    No. 32 (later No. 6 OTU) Patricia Bay, Comox, B.C., Greenwood, NS Anson, Beaufort, Hampden, Oxford, Lysander, Dakota, Expeditor

    No. 34 OTU Pennfield Ridge, N.B. Bolingbroke, Anson, Hudson, Ventura

    No. 36 (later No. 8) OTU Greenwood, N.S. Bolingbroke, Harvard, Hudson, Mosquito, Oxford

    No. 1 General Reconnaisance School Summerside, P.E.I. Anson

    No. 31 GRS Charlottetown, P.E.I. Anson

    No 1 Naval Air Gunners Schools (NAGS) Yarmouth, N.S. Swordfish, Seamew, Anson, Lysander, Walrus, Hurricane

    No. 1 Flying Instructors School Trenton, Ont. Fawn, Finch, Tiger Moth, Harvard, Cornell, Crane, Anson, etc.

    No. 2 FIS Vulcan, then Pearce, Alta. Crane, Anson, Cornell, Fawn, Finch, Harvard, Oxford, Tiger Moth

    No. 3 FIS Arnprior, Ont. Anson, Cornell, Finch, Crane, Fawn, Harvard, Stearman, Tiger Moth

    Central Flying School, Trenton Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke, Fawn, Cornell, Crane, Finch, Harvard, Hudson, Hurricane, Oxford, Ventura, Lockheed 10

    Instrument Flying School Deseronto, Ont. Oxford, Cornell

    And finally the trades schools that probably never operated aircraft:

    No. 1 RDF School, Leaside, Ont.
    No. 31 (later No. 5) RDF School, Clinton, Ont.
    (The existance of the RDF schools was a secret during the war, and the details of their activities were largely secret until about 10 years ago.)
    Air Armament School, MountainView, Ont.
    AID Inspector School, Malton, Ont.
    No. 1 Composite Training School, Trenton, Ont.
    No. 2 Composite Training School, Toronto, Ont.
    (These schools seemed to be special training schools for problem students or students who got thrown out of the regular process for health or other reasons, and used Harvards, Ansons, and maybe other types)
    School of Aeronautical Engineering, Montreal, Que.
    School of Aviation Medicine, Toronto, Ont.
    School of Cookery, Guelph, Ont.

    In addition, several operation units were hosts to training flights, including several fighter squadrons that had Army Co-operation flights and RDF training flights. There may have been a glider school, and there was a paratroop training school at Rivers supported by Lodestars, Norsemen, and Dakotas of No. 164 (T) Squadron, but I'm not sure of the relationship of all these to the BCATP.
    Last edited by Bill Walker; 10th December 2007 at 19:57. Reason: added note about Composite Schools

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Walker View Post
    The list at www.bombercrew seems the most complete, although it only mentions the principal aircraft types, and omits many of the minor types (for example, No. 31 SFTS had an RDF training flight with Ansons, replaced the Battles with Lysanders by 1943, and also had one Walrus and one Tigerschmidt on strength for a long time). It also misses the OTUs, that were under the operational commands for admin, but under the JATP/BCATP for training standards. The RN schools,and a number of trades schools, are also missing.

    Here is a list of what I think is missing, I would love to hear from anyone who could add to it.

    No. 1 OTU Bagotville, Que. Harvard, Lysander, Hurricane, Bolingbroke

    No. 3 OTU Patricia Bay, B.C. Stranraer, Canso, Lysander

    No. 5 OTU Boundary Bay and Abbotsford, BC Liberator, Bolingbroke, Mitchell, Kittyhawk

    No. 31 (later No. 7) OTU Debert, N.S. Hudson, Bolingbroke


    No. 32 (later No. 6 OTU) Patricia Bay, Comox, B.C., Greenwood, NS Anson, Beaufort, Hampden, Oxford, Lysander, Dakota, Expeditor

    No. 34 OTU Pennfield Ridge, N.B. Bolingbroke, Anson, Hudson, Ventura

    No. 36 (later No. 8) OTU Greenwood, N.S. Bolingbroke, Harvard, Hudson, Mosquito, Oxford

    No. 1 General Reconnaisance School Summerside, P.E.I. Anson

    No. 31 GRS Charlottetown, P.E.I. Anson

    No 1 Naval Air Gunners Schools (NAGS) Yarmouth, N.S. Swordfish, Seamew, Anson, Lysander, Walrus, Hurricane

    No. 1 Flying Instructors School Trenton, Ont. Fawn, Finch, Tiger Moth, Harvard, Cornell, Crane, Anson, etc.

    No. 2 FIS Vulcan, then Pearce, Alta. Crane, Anson, Cornell, Fawn, Finch, Harvard, Oxford, Tiger Moth

    No. 3 FIS Arnprior, Ont. Anson, Cornell, Finch, Crane, Fawn, Harvard, Stearman, Tiger Moth

    Central Flying School, Trenton Anson, Battle, Bolingbroke, Fawn, Cornell, Crane, Finch, Harvard, Hudson, Hurricane, Oxford, Ventura, Lockheed 10

    Instrument Flying School Deseronto, Ont. Oxford, Cornell

    And finally the trades schools that probably never operated aircraft:

    No. 1 RDF School, Leaside, Ont.
    No. 31 (later No. 5) RDF School, Clinton, Ont.
    (The existance of the RDF schools was a secret during the war, and the details of their activities were largely secret until about 10 years ago.)
    Air Armament School, MountainView, Ont.
    AID Inspector School, Malton, Ont.
    No. 1 Composite Training School, Trenton, Ont.
    No. 2 Composite Training School, Toronto, Ont.
    (These schools seemed to be special training schools for problem students or students who got thrown out of the regular process for health or other reasons, and used Harvards, Ansons, and maybe other types)
    School of Aeronautical Engineering, Montreal, Que.
    School of Aviation Medicine, Toronto, Ont.
    School of Cookery, Guelph, Ont.

    In addition, several operation units were hosts to training flights, including several fighter squadrons that had Army Co-operation flights and RDF training flights. There may have been a glider school, and there was a paratroop training school at Rivers supported by Lodestars, Norsemen, and Dakotas of No. 164 (T) Squadron, but I'm not sure of the relationship of all these to the BCATP.
    Bill,

    Thanks for the additions (bombercrew.com is my site). I deliberately left out the OTUs as I wasn't certain if they were part of the plan or not and never updated the list. I will add them and the expanded aircraft inventories.

    Many thanks !
    matt

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    [QUOTE=Steve Brew;1469]I thought the following link would be of interest to many, as it shows a full list of BCATP flying training schools in Canada, and includes locations, dates and equipment: http://www.bombercrew.com/BCATP.htm

    Perhaps I was a tad hasty in saying "full list", but I hope the resource is at least of some assistance to others, as is has been to me.

    Thanks also for the subsequent posts with additional information.

    Steve
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    [QUOTE=Steve Brew;2405]
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Brew View Post
    I thought the following link would be of interest to many, as it shows a full list of BCATP flying training schools in Canada, and includes locations, dates and equipment: http://www.bombercrew.com/BCATP.htm

    Perhaps I was a tad hasty in saying "full list", but I hope the resource is at least of some assistance to others, as is has been to me.

    Thanks also for the subsequent posts with additional information.

    Steve
    Hi Steve,

    I have updated the list to include what was suggested as well as some other items, I still have some things to vet out but I hope you will continue to find it useful.

    http://www.bombercrew.com/BCATP.htm

    Cheers!
    Matt

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    Thanks Matt
    Steve
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