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    Default No. 5 LFS Syerston ORB

    Hi,

    Just wondering if anybody had the ORB for 5 LFS. I am trying to find
    out where a crew moved to at the end of October 1944.

    The Navigator was a Sgt D H Aldridge who flew with F/S Campbell.
    He seems to have joined him at 17 OTU in June 1944, before moving
    as a crew to 1661 HCU (on Stirlings) in August 1944, and then onto
    5 LFS in October 1944.

    I Think they left the unit at the end of October, and I was wondering if
    there would be a list of movements in the ORB for 5 LFS that might record
    where he moved to.

    Any help would be great,

    Johnnie

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    Johnnie,

    I don't have the ORB in question but one thing I learned at Kew when looking for the ORB of 1667 HCU was that it wasn't where it belonged.

    In your case the No 5 LFS ORB is connected with the 1668 HCU ORB:

    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=7&CATID=-1892589&j=1

    Best,

    Dave

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    Default 5 Lfs Orb

    Hi Johnnie,
    Sadly I don't have the ORB either, though I would be very interested in seeing a copy of it if you ever locate it! I can tell you one thing though, yer man didn't go to either 463 or 467 squadrons: sorry it's a negative but at least it narrows the field a bit!!
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    Thanks for that. I will have to try and have a look
    at the document next time I get down to Kew (whenever
    that is).

    Are there any Squadron he might have moved to, or can we only
    narrow it down as far as Squadron operating Lancasters?

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    I'm open to correction, but I've always assumed that crews from No. 5 LFS went to Lancaster squadrons within 5 Group.
    Max

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    Default It's my opinion too

    hello Max,

    This is my opinion too. The crews who went through 5 LFS went to No. 5 Group Squadrons, which at the time was equipped with Lancasters (apart No. 627 Squadron on Mosquitoes), and the same for 1 LFS and 3 LFS. No. 4 Group was flying Halifaxes, No. 6 (Canadian) Group had Halifaxes and Lancasters, but no specific Lancaster Finishing School

    There may have been a few crews who were diverted from the main scheme, as often there are exceptions to the main rule.

    Joss

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    Default No 5 LFS

    I went to No 5 LFS from 1654 HCU at Wigsley in February '45, then to a 5 Group squadron, 61 Sqdn.

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    Default 5 Group squadrons

    Thanks Joss for confirming that.

    So the squadrons you need to consider Johnnie are:
    Nos. 9, 44, 49, 50, 57, 61, 83*, 97*, 106, 189, 207, 227, 463, 467, 617, 619, 630.
    (* squadrons in my source The Lancaster Story by Peter Jacobs lists these two as Nos. 5 and 8 Groups).
    HTH

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    Default transfer from one Group to another

    hello Max,

    The two Squadrons (83 and 97) were transfered from No. 8 (PFF) Group to No. 5 in april 1944, when this Group became "independant" about target marking. Hence the Mosquito Squadron (627) to assist them.

    Joss

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    Thanks for that. It narrows it down quite a bit.

    I will try to have a look at the 5 LFS ORB first, but if
    there is no movement list I can try hunting through the
    individual squadron ORB's

    Johnnie

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