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    Default Sgt Robert Montgomery RAFVR 1366420

    This WOp/AG was lost over Germany on 30 January 1944 with 514 Squadron. Does anyone know where he was from and his age?

    Another Robert Montgomery (PO RAFVR 170961) from Coventry was lost over France with 49 Squadron on 27 April 1944 aged 22.

    A Robert Montgomery, signed professional by Leeds United FC, was killed serving with Bomber Command in 1944 but I cannot identify which of these two airmen is the correct individual.

    Is there anyone out there who can offer me a clue?

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    Malcolm,
    Not much to go on but Robert Montgomery who signed for Leeds was Irish, Robert Montgomery of 49sqdn appears to be registered at birth in Aston.
    Cheers......Alan.

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    I concur with the Montgomery that was signed by Leeds was Irish - thanks for the Aston connection for the 49 Squadron loss which tends to rule that candidate out. I still need proof of where the other lad came from as history proves that assumptions don't always turn out to be correct.

    Malcolm

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    Its a long shot but the Service and casulaty records of O'Brien and Robertson RAAF and Chequer RCAF might help to enlighten the question?

    There is a small chance that the next of kin of the other crew are mentioned in their records.

    neither of the RAAf men's files have been scanned unfortunatly.

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    Denis
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Hi Malcolm
    I don't want to complicate matters but it depends on the source of "Irish" for the footballer. If it is definitely known that he was born there then it is settled, but if we are just talking about a possible qualification to play International Football, then he could just as easily be born in Aston as anywhere because the right to play for a given country could arise from as slim a circumstance as a single Grandparent, irrespective of where the individual was born. Have you tried Leeds United Football club or it's Fanclub to see if they have any records from the period?
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    Thanks for the advice Dick & Denis

    I'll trawl through the rest of the crew for clues.

    The player in question did not play first-team football but it is believed he was from Northern Ireland.

    I know that current qualifications to play international football are much less regulated than in the 'thities and 'forties (eg grandparents) so I tend to feel that the Aston born airman is now in the 'unlikely' category of being the right man. The Leeds papers just state that Robert Montgomery was lost on active service with the RAF.

    All Leeds United records on players before 1957 went up in smoke after the West Stand fire that year.

    I am trying to compile a list of Leeds City and Leeds United players lost in WW1 and WW2 and Robert plus a City player need to be confirmed with adequate proof that it is the right individual. This for a plaque to the commemorate those lost serving their country.

    Malcolm Macdonald
    (co-author with Martin Jarred of The Who's Who of Leeds United - published by Breedon Books in August 2008)

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