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    Hello Henk

    I know it is rather late to reply to this topic but I can add a little bit to the story of Josephine Pipon.
    I understand, from letters sent by my grandfather to my father that she was killed in an air-raid.
    She had been a close friend of his son Charles Greville-Heygate who was a Blenheim pilot with Coastal Command. He had been reported missing just a few days before on the 26th of June.

    cheers Motherbird

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    That ties up with the 37 civilian casualties for the same date on CWGC, the majority of them are registered in the Southampton County Borough.
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    I looked up to see if there was an air raid on Southampton that day but couldn't find any records. Is that where they died?

    Motherbird

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    My understanding would be that was the case. All casualties, killed that day in Southampton would have been registered by the civilian authorities, Southampton County Borough. The records on CWGC then show the burial data for the military and place of death for civilians.

    You can check the casualties using Geoff Sullivans site here:
    http://www.hut-six.co.uk/cgi-bin/search39-47.php

    Search for date: 08/07/1941
    in the Regiment/Corps: field select CIVILIAN

    That will show that days casulaties and goign through them you will see most were registered in Southampton, and where those deaths occurred. Some of the names might ring a bell with the old letters perhaps.
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    Thanks Dennis and Motherbird for additional info on PIPON.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    AC2 Thomas DAVIDSON - 1144272; DOAS
    AC1 William S. ELSMORE - 913573; DOAS
    AC1 John M. MacDONALD - 1014028 - Can't find this rank and name to match in Flight archives.
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Arthur D. MERRETTI - 1107250; Listed KOAS as "A. D. M. Merretti"
    Asst Section Offr WAAF Josephine PIPON - 1045; Listed DOAS
    Sgt A. RAMSDEN (first name not known) - 1004368; listed DOAS
    Sgt Leslie N. SMITH - 630023, Cannot find him listed in Flight archvies
    P/O Robert E. WAUGH - 60584. listed DOAS

    cheers Dennis
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    Is it possible that LAC (Pilot u/t) Arthur D. MERRETTI (death registered Chippenham) may have been killed on Hurricane L1832 of 9 FTS that crashed on approach Castle Combe.

    Asst Sect Offr WAAF PIPON may have been listed in The Times 10-7-1941 being killed in air raid what means that DOAS should have been KOAS. (Killed on active service by enemy action).

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    Offically she was DOAS, the first of the news reports was perhaps a family announcement of her death and hence 'killed' by enemy action, which indeed she was.

    In RAF turns however, she must have been DOAS, perhaps off duty for example.

    http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/chippenham.html

    There certainly is a CAstle Combe in that district and David (Rockhound) thought this to be the case also, above.
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    Hi
    I've just unearthed this Order for the Service funeral for Pipon amongst some old papers.
    I thought it might be of interest to someone.

    http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj60/reallyusefulboxes/Copyofpipponservice001.jpg
    http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj60/reallyusefulboxes/Copyofpipponservice002.jpg

    Cheers Motherbird

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    Hello

    AC1 John M. MacDONALD - 1014028 - the Aberdeen Weekly Journal of July 17th 1941 carried the following announcement:

    CAMERON - killed in England, John Mackay MacDonald or Cameron, R.A.F., beloved husband of Daisy Robertson, late of Edwin Cottage, Kennay, and adopted son of Mr. and Mrs. Cameron, Inverness.

    LAC (Pilot u/t) Arthur D. MERRETTI - 1107250 - the Graves Registration Report Form records him with 9 F.T.S.

    Sgt Alexander RAMSDEN - 1004368 - the West Yorkshire Deaths and Burials Register for Stanley, St Peter, lists him as dying at "Wendover R.A.F. Hospital" i.e. Halton.

    regards

    Simon

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