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    Default Operational and Refresher Training Unit (ORTU) - 29-3-1945

    Seven ORTU-airmen were killed 29-3-1945; looking for what caused their death and place of death registration:

    F/Sgt F.C. ALDERSLEY - 1385283;
    Cpl J. HARDY - 567646;
    F/Lt W.J. HOWES - 127241;
    F/O K.R. INGER - 153746;
    F/Sgt R.H. McALPINE - 2221035;
    F/Sgt F.W. REES - 1585283, and
    Sgt K. SLEE - 2205180.

    Regards,
    Henk.

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    From: http://merlinsroared.tripod.com/id11.html


    Fatal Accident 29/03/45 Mark IV Stirling PW 391 Official version? Correct Non operational flight??

    29/03 /45 Flying Accident 14.55 hours Thorney . Northants

    Crew (Pops) Fl/Lt W John Howes

    Mac Fl/Sgt R.H.MacAlpine

    Taffy Fl/Sgt F .W Rees

    Fred Fl/Sgt. F.C Aldersley,

    P/O Ken R Inger, Sgt Ken Slee, Cpl J Hardy passenger.

    They were on a check flight when a Miles Master Piloted by Cpl (Free French,) Phillippe de Bienkkewicz out of Peterborough collided with the Stirling, cutting off the tail. Both planes burst into flames and crashed, all crew in both planes were killed. Place of death is recorded as Whittelsey. Court of Inquiry report not available. John had completed 1466 hours flying. "

    Another version of the crash is as follows,

    "The crew & Aircraft are reported to have been dropping supplies to troops on the Eastern Rhine, the radio malfunctioned and they returned to base for repairs. Following repair a test flight was carried out to check out the radio over Peterborough. TheStirling was returning to base when a solo trainer aircraft flew out of a cloud and crashed into the Stirling, killing all the crew -7 in the Stirling and the solo Pilot" ( Cpl.R.de Bienkiewicz.) "

    The crew were all buried in Peterborough except for John who was buried in Lampeter the town in Wales where he had married Anne 20 months before.

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    Hi Henk
    Just to back up Amrit, all those who died are registered at Whittlesey,Cambridgeshire which would be right for the crash site at Thorney
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    Dick
    Last edited by Dick; 21st November 2008 at 16:47.

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    Hi, All,
    If the deaths are registered at Whittlesey then this is only 5 miles from Thorney - separated by the dyked and banked River Nene. Now it's 50+ yrs since I lived there, and the administrative Local Authority boundaries there have changed significantly. Thorney would have only just been in Northamptonshire. The Soke of Peterborough was the other Local Authority area (itself part of Northants). Cambridgeshire (for Whittlesey) came on the scene very late in the day. Bit confusing!!!
    HTH
    Peter Davies
    PS Whittlesey - in those days had 28 streets. And a pub and a church in every street!!!
    Meteorology is a science; good meteorology is an art!
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    Hi
    From Genuki, Whittlesey was created in 1936 out of part of Peterborough put together with various parishes in Whittlesey itself, Stanground N and Thornley and returned to Peterborough in 1965. The Genuki list has it as part of, or answerable to, Cambridgeshire.
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    Dear friends, thanks for all this excellent info; will amend my files.
    Enjoy the weekend,
    Henk.

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