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    HI Iím a newbie to this interesting sight and would appreciate some assistance in trying to obtain information on Sergeant Albert Royston Burley (1814741). Albert served with the 101 Sqdn at Ludford Mangna. On the 23 Sep 1944 Albert crewed NF982 on its first operation unfortunately the Lancaster was involved in a midair collision all crew members lost their lives. I would love to obtain any other information regarding this operation or other operations Albert took part.

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    You might already have this but Bomber Command Losses 1944 (page 435) by Chorley states the aircraft was thought to have been lost near the concentration point at 2009 following a mid air collision. The crew consisted of:
    F/O J.D.Mackie
    Sgt P.J.Brown
    F/O E.W.Sawyer
    F/S M.H.Broden
    Sgt D.J.Ansell
    Sgt J.Whiteley
    Sgt T.J.Minns
    Sgt A.R.Burley

    All of which were killed. Ansells body was washed up and he is buried in Brookwood Cemetery, while Whiteleys body was also washed and he was buried in Barnsley Cemetery.

    Not sure if the aircraft it collided with survived as I can't see another mentioned in Bomber Command Losses.

    Johnnie

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    PS, should have added the aircraft code was SR-B, and it was to attack Neuss, taking off at 1856 (again, all from BCL 1944, Chorley).

    Can I ask what your interest is in the crash?

    Johnnie

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    Bit of a long shot, but two other aircraft were lost without trace that night, so it is possible that your aircraft collided with one of these. The first was Lancaster LM223 of 463 Squadron which had been detailed to attack Ladbergen. All of the crew are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

    The second was Lancaster LM722 of 166 Squadron which, like your aircraft, was detailed to attack Neuss. It had taken off at from Kirmington at 1840, and all of the crew are missing, and are again commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

    With the details above I would guess (it's a long shot) that your aircraft collided with
    LM722 as they were both detailed to attack the same target, so probably had the same concentration point (although other members might be able to add more).

    Johnnie

    (Information again from BCL 1944)

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    The interest is down to family research Albert was my dadís cousin so Iím trying to find as much information as possible. Your theory is an interesting one so I will look in to this in more detail.

    Many thanks for your response.

    Anthony Burley

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    The following information is from the 101 Squadron orbs for the month of September.
    Sept.3/44 Target Gilze Rijen
    Crew: F/O J.D. Mackie, Sgt. P.J.Brown, F/O E.E.Sawyer, Sgt. D.J.Ansell, F/S. H.Broden, Sgt. T.J.Minns, Sgt. R.A. Burley, Sgt. J. Whitely.
    T/O 15.58 Land 20.23 Load 4x1000 M65 4x1000MC, 3x1000 AM59 4x500GPLD Bombed TIY visually at 17.31hrs from 12000ft heading 110T Good bombing Damaged by flak

    Sept 5/44 Target Le Havre
    T/O 16.50 Land 20.09 Load 4x1000MG 3x1000SAP 4x1000GP 4x500GP Bombed to south of brown smoke at 18.43 1/2 hrs from 11000 ft heading 151T Directed to bomb south of smoke

    Sept 15/44 Target Steenwijk
    T/O 22.10 Land 01.28 Load 20x500GP Bombed red TIs at 23.45 1/2hrs from 13000ft heading 107T IAS 170mph. Target indicators scattered bombing in centre of TIs

    Sept 17/44 Target West Kapelle
    T/O 17.01 Land 19.37 Load 4x1000MC 4x1000USASAP 5x1000GP 4x500GP Bombed visually at 18.31 1/2 hrs from 12000ft heading 0721

    Sept 19/44 Target Rheydt. Carried second pilot P/O A. Mason
    T/O 19.07 Land 23.59 Load 1x4000MZ 12x500MC(L4) 2x500INC X type Bombed 2 TI greens at 21.51hrs from 11000ft heading 072T IAS 190mph. Attack did not appear to be a success.

    Sept 23/44 Target Neues
    T/O 18.56 Load 4x1000MC 4x1000SAP 3x1000GP 4x500GP Missing No communication from aircraft received after T/O

    I would give you more however it is somewhat tedious and will take time. It would be easier if you could provide the date Sgt. Burley joined 101 Squadron.

    In some cases these shorter sorties only constituted 1/3 of a full operation towards completion of a tour.

    Hope this helps somewhat Anthony.
    Kind regards
    Leslie

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnie214 View Post
    Bit of a long shot, but two other aircraft were lost without trace that night, so it is possible that your aircraft collided with one of these. The first was Lancaster LM223 of 463 Squadron which had been detailed to attack Ladbergen. All of the crew are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

    The second was Lancaster LM722 of 166 Squadron which, like your aircraft, was detailed to attack Neuss. It had taken off at from Kirmington at 1840, and all of the crew are missing, and are again commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

    With the details above I would guess (it's a long shot) that your aircraft collided with
    LM722 as they were both detailed to attack the same target, so probably had the same concentration point (although other members might be able to add more).

    Johnnie

    (Information again from BCL 1944)
    I can confirm that it's NOT LM223 of 463 squadron. I'm in contact with one of the pilot's involved in this collision (Jack Lindquist LM309 of 463 squadron) and I've already informed Anton on the Lanc-Archive forum, where he's also posted this question, that the other pilot was P/O Staples (LM223 also of 463 squadron).
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    Max

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