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    Default Angus Lloyd Kippen, 407 Sqn-1942

    I note there are a number of experts on Coastal Command losses here. Can someone tell me about the loss of P/O (Air Obs.) Kippen's plane on 16 May 1942? He was RCAF and is buried in Great Bircham (St. Mary) Churyard. I assume form the squadron's history that it was a Wellington on anti-submarine duty.

    He is one of a number of former students at Malvern Collegiate Institute in Toronto lost in the war that I am researching.

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    Angus Kippen from Toronto was the observer on Hudson AM906 when the A/C was damaged by flak during an attack on a German convoy north of Terschelling. Both engines failed on landing and it crashed into a gun pit. The pilot P/O FK Kay was badly wounded. An AA Gunner was killed along with Angus Kippen.

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    Google search finds this site for example, reapeating Andy's message:
    http://www.norfolkwargraves.org.uk/Allied.htm

    With a little family background story.

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    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Thanks very much and I will remind myself to do the simple searches first.

    Can anyone point me to the details of his mission or has anyone got the ORBs (sorry my keyboard is acting up and I cannot punctuate this properly).
    David

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    I believe that AM906 was marked "RR*O" when it was lost.

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    G'day

    Kippen had carried out three trips as an Observer when he was killed.

    Frankie Kay was the leader of the second strike.

    Sergeant Sadesky and Sergeant Thornelee were Kay's air gunners and both severely injured.

    Cheers...Chris

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    Thanks for the info on the crew and previous missions. Where did you get it?

    And can anyone point me to info on the mission to attack the German convoy? I note it was near Terschelling in the West Frisian Islands, which is where my dad used to drop window when he was in the RCAF.
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    >>>And can anyone point me to info on the mission to attack the German convoy? I note it was near Terschelling in the West Frisian Islands, which is where my dad used to drop window when he was in the RCAF.>>>

    G'day

    If you can wait until tonight, I'll put something together for you.

    Cheers...Chris

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    Default Attack details from the German Marine Museum

    I just received a reply from the German Marine Museum with details of the attack that both P/O Kippen and P/O Creeden were involved in and which damaged their Hudsons causing their crashes on return. Their address, for those who might want to follow a similar line of research is:

    http://www.marinemuseum.de/

    They need specifics but when I provided them with the names of the ships, they were able to find this info and reply in English.


    Our main source in the case of the convoy of 15 May 1942 is the war diary of the German Seekriegsleitung (supreme naval war staff of the former Kriegsmarine).

    On 15 May 1942 it drily states:
    "North of Terschelling in the evening of 15 May air raid of 8 bombers against convoy. By bomb hits patrol boat V 2002* and steamer SELJE (6.698 BRT) are lost. 5 attacking airplanes are shot down by escorts.

    Attacks and losses as well in this case as in the air raid off Cape de la Hague show the urgent need of sufficient fighter cover for our convois and for the forces engaged in route-survey and minesweeping."

    *The patrol boat V 2002 was the ex MADELEINE-LOUISE you have mentioned. It is a British-built (1933) ex French fishing trawler of 464 GRT, taken over from the French Marine Nationale by the Kriegsmarine in 1940. She was armed with a 10,5 cm or 8.8 cm gun plus several 20 mm AA guns and had a crew of round about 35 men.

    I will add a post on the 5 a/c from RAF Bircham Newton lost shortly, thanks to the ORBs I received from Alan and the gentleman at Great Bircham who has researched the cemetery there.
    David

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    Default Army AA gunner missing from list of Hudson accident

    I have just gone over the notes I have collected on this incident and I realized that the AA gunner, who was killed when Kippen's plane hit his gun pit, is not named anywhere that I can see. Does anyone know where I might find him?
    David

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