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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 2-9-1941

    What were the places of death registration for:

    Sgt (Obs) Maurice F. BOYNTON - 1068620;
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Austen K. BROWN - 656640;
    LAC George N. DOBSON - 1385885;
    Sgt (Pilot) Cyril A. EDWARDS - 1286483;
    Sgt (WOp/Ag) Maurice L. GUIVER - 1182062;
    Sgt (Pilot) John D. HAINSWORTH - 1379349;
    Sgt (Pilot) Arthur D. HOWARD - 1380126;
    AC1 Xela C. MICHELL - 1367288, and
    LAC (Pilot u/t) William MOORE - 1033313.

    Also looking for unit and possible cause of death of:
    Cpl George R. PRIESTLEY - 1350730, missing and commemorated on Panel 289 (high panel number !!) of the Runnymede Memorial (grave lost or unknown at the time CWGC-grave registration was set-up ?).

    Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

    Hurricane I - V 7009 - 55 OTU - crashed on take-off ½ mile SW of Woolsington.
    Magister I - L8335 - 15 EFTS - crashed on landing Bumfoot (Burnfoot ?) LG.
    Oxford I - V3150 - 54 OTU - broke up in air East Thorpe Hall, near Malton, Yorkshire.
    Oxford I - V3210 - RAFC - flew in high ground Consburn Moor, near Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire.
    Tiger Moth II - N6662 - 1 EFTS - collided near Hatfield with Tiger Moth N9500.
    Tiger Moth II - N9500 - 1 EFTS - collided near Hatfield with Tiger Moth N6662.
    Havoc I - AE472 - 1451 Flt - abandoned Warboys, Huntingdonshire.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Henk,

    54OTU ORB has 1380126 Sgt HOWARD as pilot and 1286483 Sgt EDWARDS as passenger in Oxford V3150. "It appears that Sgt. Howard lost control of the aircraft while flying in cloud and failed to recover until almost on the ground when he pulled out so suddenly that the elevators and ailerons were pulled off. The aircraft crashed near Malton, Yorkshire. It was comnpletely wrecked and both occupants killed."

    BOYNTON, aged 28, St Ives (Possible for Havoc AE472)
    BROWN, age 21, Hatfield (Possible for either N6662 or N9500)
    DOBSON, age 22, Hendon
    EDWARDS, age 21, Ryedale. Confirmed Oxford V3150
    GUIVER, Maurice Leonard, age 20, Wigton, Cumbria. Possible for Magister L8335, there is a Burnfoot at Wigton. Interestingly, the next entry in the register is a Morris L Guiver, also 20 and also registered at Wigton.
    HAINSWORTH, age 28, Hatfield (Possible for either N6662 or N9500)
    HOWARD, Arthur Charles, age 20, Ryedale. Confirmed Oxford V3150. (Note middle name - on CWGC and in register)
    MITCHELL, Xela Cambria, age 20, Wayland, Norfolk. Note surname is given as Mitchell on both register and CWGC.
    MOORE, age 18 (CWGC) or 19 (register), Hatfield (Possible for either N6662 or N9500)

    Regards,

    David

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    Sgt (Obs) Maurice F. BOYNTON - DIED OF WOUNDS OR INJURIES RECEIVED ON ACTIVE SERVICE , There is a Maurice BOYNTON no middle initial age 28 registered in St Ives district.

    LAC (Pilot u/t) Austen K. BROWN - Age 21 Registered Hatfield;

    LAC George N. DOBSON - DOAS ;Age 22 Hendon District

    Sgt (Pilot) Cyril A. EDWARDS - KOAS Age 21 Ryedale district;

    Sgt (WOp/Ag) Maurice L. GUIVER - DOAS; Age 20 Wigton district, (twice in the register as Morris and Maurice it seems)

    Sgt (Pilot) John D. HAINSWORTH - KILLED ON ACTIVE SERVICE (WHILE ENGAGED ON NON-OPEBATIONAL FLYING DUTIES OR ON THE GROUND THROUGN ENEMY ACTION).—;
    Age 28 Registered in Hatfield district.

    Sgt (Pilot) Arthur C. HOWARD - KOAS Age 20 in Ryedale district;

    AC1 Xela C. MITCHELL - DOAS, Age 20 in Wayland district

    LAC (Pilot u/t) William MOORE - KOAS. The most likely register entry is age 19 in Hatfield district.

    So thats Brown, Hainsworth and Moore all in Hatfield district. Only found Hainsworth and Moore in Flight however.

    Edwards and Howard in Ryedale, both KOAS


    With no age to go by, there is a George R PRIESTLEY age 43 in N Kesteven district. BUt there was also a George R PRIESTLEY born in 1921 so it might not be related.
    Last edited by dennis_burke; 18th November 2009 at 22:57. Reason: Added Edwards, Howard KOAS
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    V3210 was a none fatal accident, the pilot walked away. The location in the AB books and on the 1180 is incorrect as there is no Consburn Moor in the area, the nearest alternative is the area above Cowburn Tunnel, which is Colborne.


    Here are the ORB entries for some of the other accidents.

    No.15 EFTS

    September 2nd 1941, “Accident to Magister L8335 at Burnfoot RLG – Pilot, LAC Szymen, C. Aircraft stalled when carrying out forced landing practice approach below prescribed height.”

    No.54 OTU

    September 2nd 1941, “There was a fatal accident at 0943 hours No.1380126 Sgt A.C. Howard was piloting an Oxford aircraft with No.1286483 Sgt C.A. Edwards as passenger. It appears that Sgt Howard lost control of the aircraft while flying in cloud and failed to recover until almost on the ground when he pulled out so suddenly that the elevators and ailerons were pulled off. The aircraft crashed near Malton, Yorks. It was completely wrecked, and both occupants killed.”

    I didn't copy the page from the No.55 OTU ORB for V7009, probably because it was close to the airfield and a non fatal accident.
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    Hi Henk,
    Hurricane I, V7009 of 55 OTU on 2-9-41 piloted by Sgt JF Gibson RCAF R72083, engine failure near Woolsington, no injury to pilot.
    Regards,
    Roy

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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 2-9-1941

    Henk, with regard Oxford V3150, this occured less than a mile from where I grew up. The location is actually near Easthorpe, note the spelling. The aircraft came down afew hundred yards behind and below what was Easthorpe Hall which was used by the Army at the time.

    The hall burnt down some years ago and the site is now occupied by a small housing estate.

    Oddly the crash database at Elvington incorrectly gives the location as being near Great Habton, some 5 miles away.

    Other than that my info is the same as already given by others.

    regards Rich

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    Thanks all for this worthwhile info. Still a log way to go !
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Henk,

    Checked the RAF Overseas War Deaths 1939-1948 for Priestley and he is not listed !

    Mark

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    Thanks Mark checking PRIESTLEY.
    Regards,
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    Hi Henk,

    F1180 for AE472 has 1 killed 0 Injured.

    Pilot was Sgt J A Gunn RNZAF and survived.

    CoI annotation has
    Importance of passengers wearing their parachute packs attached to the harness should be stressed once more.

    So it appears the passenger failed to abandon the aircraft.

    Strong suggestion to link crash to
    Sgt (Obs) Maurice F. BOYNTON - 1068620;

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