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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 15-10-1941

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Not found Flight archives:
    F/O Reginald N. BAGSHAW - 46374.

    B - Died on active service:
    AC2 Andrew MAGEE - 1347163, and
    AC2 George E. SMITH - 1033011.

    C - Killed on active service:
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Joseph L. COEN - 1272455;
    AC2 Harold N. GRAY - 1297299;
    LAC Peter HEDLEY - 643440, and
    LAC (Pilot u/t) James A.S. YONGE - 655946.

    D - Proposed aircraft losses for this day:
    Defiant I - N1739 - 60 OTU - flew into high ground 5 miles S of Gilford, East Lothian.
    Hart Trainer - K6501 - 1 FTS - crashed on landing Shrewton.
    Magister I - L8131 - 5 EFTS - crashed on approach Abbots Bromley.
    Oxford II - P1080 - RAFC - collided with Oxford X6937 ˝ mile W of Cranwell.
    Oxford II - X6937 - RAFC - refer to Oxford P1080.
    Spitfire I - K9899 - 53 OTU - overshot landing Llandow.
    Tiger Moth II - N6812 - 20 EFTS - spun into ground Stainburn, Yokrshire.
    Tiger Moth II - T5604 - GTS - crashed on landing 1 mile N of Thame.
    Tiger Moth II - T7108 - 1 SS - damaged byond repair in accident; no further details.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Henk,

    AC2 George E Smith is listed in BCL Vol9 with unit as POLEBROOK. There is a registration at Kettering which matches but I am not an expert on the registration districts.

    Gray, Hedley and Bagshaw all registered at Gosport, Coen and Yonge registered at Grantham.

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    Hi Henk
    Coen and Yonge registered at Grantham makes it possible that they were casualties of the Oxford collision nr Cranwell. Kettering and Polebrook are in Northamptonshire, but I believe a death at Polebrook would most likely be registered at Oundle
    Regards
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    Thanks friends for this info; question remains were COEN and YONGE on P1080 or X6937. Furthermore, can Gosport, Hampshire (three casualties) being matched to any aircraft loss or maybe casualties of an air raid ?
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    F/O R N Bagshaw is KOAS in Flight magazine. Search for Bags only.
    Dennis Burke
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 15-10-1941

    Henk, I have pilot of Tiger Moth N6812 as being LAC Lloyd and aircraft as badly damaged. Lloyd is believed to have survived.

    regards Rich Allenby

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    Thanks Dennis and Rich for additional info.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    I have the following from the No.5 EFTS and No.60 OTU ORBs, their accidents were non-fatal.

    No.5 EFTS

    October 15th 1941, “B Flight, LAC Constable W.J. crashed on landing N5147. C Flight, LAC Smith, C.W. crashed on landing N3991. D Flight, LAC Dulson R.H. lost landed at Derby. LAC Dunne R. crashed on landing L8131.”

    No.60 OTU

    October 15th 1941, “Two flying accidents occurred. The first was to Defiant N1739 piloted by P/O R.S. Peacocke and Sgt Healey, L.R. this aircraft flew into hillside completely wrecking the machine. Facial injuries were sustained by both men. The accident was considered due to the inexperience of the pilot in that he flew below and not over the low clouds. The second aircraft Defiant N3436 piloted by Sgt Carter A.R. swung off runway on landing damaging the airscrew etc (Cat AC) but there were no casualties. This was considered due to the inexperience of the pilot.”
    Alan Clark

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    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    Thanks Al for this extra info; much appreciated and a good start for the new year.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 15-10-1941

    Checking CWGC cemetery registers again found the name of an airman sofar missing in my files; what was the place of death registration for:
    AC1 Gilbert G. WYATT - 1187475 - age 27, killed on active service, and could there be a match to any aircraft serial mentioned in message #1 of this thread.
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