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    I am currently researching airmen listed on my local war memorial. I would welcome any information regarding the following airmen.

    FO D G Newman 67063 was posted as missing whilst serving with 229 Sqn Malta on 26/08/1942.

    LAC C H Rumble 1833784 was killed on active service on 31/12/1944, his death being registered at St Austell, Cornwall.

    Sgt (Air Gnr) R Thomas 1586842 was killed in action whilst serving with 103 Sqn on 25/03/1944 (Unable to find in BCL for 1944). His death appears to have been registered in Surrey SW.

    PO V E Woolnough 48586 DFM killed in action serving with 14 OTU 31/05/1942. I am interested to see the citation for the award of the DFM.

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    Hi Nick
    Sgt Ronald Thomas is in Chorley Vol 9, Roll of Honour. This can mean that he was killed, or wounded and later died, whilst on an a/c that was not itself lost and thus does not appear in the appropriate Chorley "YEAR" Vol. The fact that you have a UK death registration suggests succumbing to wounds after landing. In Surrey it might mean the diversion of a damaged a/c away from it's home base
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    Woolnough's DFM is not listed with a Citation in either the Flight or London Gazette archives.

    For Newman
    www.spitfires.ukf.net lists these two aircraft:
    BR496 VcT 3037 CHA M46 FF 13-6-42 8MU 14-6-42 52MU 8-7-42 Empire Clive 19-7-42 Malta 3-8-42 229S Missing off Malta 26-8-42 FH12.12

    EP190 Vb CBAF M46 6MU 20-5-42 47MU 5-6-42 Empire Shackleton 12-6-42 Malta 1-8-42 229S Missing on interception 26-8-42 FH50.15

    Sgt C H Cornish of 229 Sqn was also lost on the same date.

    This site then lists:
    #21 26.8.1942 13:17 Spitfire Stab/JG 53 12km N La Valetta, Malta / Spitfire V (EP190) of 229 Sqn, RAF flown by F/O DG Newman, killed
    Shot down by Franz Schiess (Schiehs)
    http://www.luftwaffe.cz/schiess.html

    So, Newman shot down in Spitfire EP190 of 229 Sqn - Some one can confirm maybe.

    regards

    Dennis
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    Hi Nick
    From "Spitfires over Malta" by Brian Cull and Frederick Galea(p262). Sgt C H Cornish went into the sea, either after being shot down or misjudging his altitude, flying BR496, Newman reported that he was circling the a/c in the sea. Neither pilot survived. Newman is recorded as flying EP190 and was believed to have been bounced and shot down by Lt Scheiss
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    Thank you for your replies Dick and Dennis.

    Your help is appreciated.

    Nick

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    Hi Nick,
    THOMAS was fatally wounded during fighter attack on his Lancaster ME473 of 103 Sqn; the a/c returned to homebase safely.
    RUMBLE was killed on Warwick GR.V serial PN750; crashed Trewollvas Farm near St.Colomb Major, Cornwall, 09.20 hrs.
    Also killed: F/Lt P.G. Sargent - P/O B.G. Kinsman - F/O J.L. Rackham - F/Sgt P.P. Funnell - F/Sgt C.K. Johns and F/Sgt T.J. Davies.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Hi Nick
    From Henk's post, the home Base for 103 Sqn at the time was Elsham Wolds in Lincolnshire about 15 Mls S of the river Humber almost opposite Hull. You would need an explanation of where he died for the death registration to be Surrey S W. My guess remains a diversion to a Southern airfield to get medical help to Thomas, following which they continued to Lincolnshire.Given that the target that night was Berlin the death registration is a little far west but Bomber Command made extensive use of evasive routing both in to and away from the target areas by 1944. If anyone has access to the 103 Sqn ORB it might give more detail
    Regards
    Dick
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    Dick,

    I am pretty certain I have the correct death registration district, a diversion to a Southern airfield seems to be a plausible explanation. It would be great if anyone has access to the 103 Sqn ORB if not I will try and get copies of the relevant pages from TNA.

    Henk,

    Could I ask the source of the information in your post.

    Regards,

    Nick

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    Dick/Nick,
    Refer to Chorley's Vol.6 (1945) page 99 under ME473 - 207 Sqn: I quote:
    "......it had previously seen service with 103 squadron as PM-M and had been badly shot about by a FW190 while operating to Berlin on 24-25 March 1944, killing Sergeant B. Thomas, the tail gunner. A crash landing was made at Dunsfold, during which the Lancaster ran into a B17G Fortress belonging to the 452nd Bomb Group. Subsequently, five members of the crew received gallantry awards".

    Regards,
    Henk.

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    If you are remotely interested in a New Zealand airman of 9SFTS at Hullavington - Joseph Fyvie - buried in Chippenham Cemetery let me know. I have been studying his life and family - and short career for several years.

    Ken

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