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    Default 570 Sqdn Stirling losses during Arnhem resupply

    I've just finished scanning my dad's log books to disk for future generations.

    He was a Stirling pilot with 570 Sqdn and entries for ops 17th,19th and 20th Sept 44 show some crews missing. It's difficult to read his writing but it looks like : F/L Liddle (+crew) missing 18/9, P/O Kirkham (+crew) missing 19/9 and F/O Mortimore (+crew) missing 23/9. I would be interested if anybody has any further info on these a/c and how they came to be lost. Many thanks.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/DingleRoad/logbook.png

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    heres some information for you from old posts etc.

    http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=8138&forum=DCForumID 6

    Killed in action 23 September 1944 (Stirling EF298) on re-supply mission to Arnhem; buried in Holland. Others in the crew were 138324 F/L D. Dickson, DFM (navigator), 144583 F/O R.C. Booth (navigator), 56123 P/O F.G. Totterdell (WOP), 1818376 FS D.J. Blenclowe (air gunner) and 1287244 Sergeant R.B. Bond (flight engineer) and BAKER, F/O William (J23291)

    and a Roll of Honour for 570 Sqn and attached Army personell.

    http://www.pegasusarchive.org/arnhem/rollR570.htm

    and this

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/08/a2015308.shtml

    Just to get you started. Someone will give you the correct information soon.

    Dennis
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Many thanks

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    Details from Cummings' "Though Without Anger"

    18/9/44 LJ913 Stirling IV Schaarsbergen
    The aircraft was belly landed following damage sustained from enemy AA fire. The crew, captained by Flight Lieutenant Liddle, survived

    23/9/44 LJ883 Stirling IV Planken Wambuis, Ede
    The aircraft’s crew had just finished dropping its load and it was down to 500 feet when it was struck by AA fire and a serious blaze started in the port wing. The aircraft continued to descend and struck the ground, causing the rear turret to break off and probably saving the gunner’s life in the process because only he and a despatcher survived.
    Flying Officer William KIRKHAM Pilot
    Flying Officer Morris HAND Wireless Operator
    Flying Officer David Henry ATKINSON Bomb Aimer
    Flying Officer Ernest Charles BROWN Navigator
    Sergeant Harold ASHTON Flight Engineer
    Lance Corporal Gerard REARDON 253 (Airborne) Composite Company RASC

    Aforementioned EF298 does not mention Mortimore

    23/8/44 EF298 Stirling IV Panoramahoeve, Ede
    During the dropping sequence, this aircraft was hit by AA fire and the aircraft turned away from the DZ but crashed very shortly afterward.
    Flying Officer William BAKER RCAF Pilot
    Flight Lieutenant John DICKSON DFM Navigator
    Flying Officer Robert Carter BOOTH Bomb Aimer
    Pilot Officer Francis George TOTTERDILL Wireless Operator
    Sergeant Richard Bert BOND Flight Engineer
    Flight Sergeant Dennis James BLENCOWE Air Gunner
    Driver Robert William HAYTON 253 (Airborne) Composite Company RASC
    Driver Reginald SHORE

    Mortimore is mentioned in an earlier loss:

    19/9/44 EH897 Stirling Schaarsbergen
    The aircraft crashed in the vicinity of the DZ and all the crew made POW, except Flying Officer Mortimore (the pilot) and Flight Sergeant Marcham (wireless operator).

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    Great, thanks very much. That ties up with what he has written in his logbook. I'll copy ,paste ,print and insert the above into the logbook.

    By the way, I have a couple of photos from his logbook taken en-route to Arnhem. You may have seen them before :

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/DingleRoad/stirling2.jpg

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/DingleRoad/StirlingTUP.jpg


    The writing by them says : Photos taken by F/O Lord Mike Decies, Rear Gunner Jock Campbell's crew V.8.F
    Last edited by Tyke; 9th January 2009 at 09:21.

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    Hello,

    Invaluable! StirlingTUP is now my desktop image!

    Was you father Flight Lieutenant BRIERLY?

    I expect that it'll be possible to have access to the other pages of your father's log book because it really hard to obtain these infos.
    If you need more infos about 570 Squadron in 38 Group I'll be glad to help you.

    Bruno
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    Raf WWII 38 Group Squadrons Reunited <www.raf38group.org>
    Stirling Aircraft Society <stirlingaircraftsoc.raf38group.org>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Hello,

    Invaluable! StirlingTUP is now my desktop image!

    Was you father Flight Lieutenant BRIERLY?

    I expect that it'll be possible to have access to the other pages of your father's log book because it really hard to obtain these infos.
    If you need more infos about 570 Squadron in 38 Group I'll be glad to help you.

    Bruno
    Hello Bruno,

    Yes Denys Brierly was my father. He died about 14 years ago and now I really regret not quizzing him more about his RAF service before he died.
    I have his log books, all in tact . Some maps he used the night before D Day, complete with pencil markings, various memos and photographs and a letter form a guy called Brig. Collingwood. Apparently he got stuck in the opening of my father's Albemarle, during the D Day drops.

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    Hello Tyke,

    So the aircraft coded 'L' that we can read on your father's log book was LK199 V8-'L'. Your father flew all the major Airborne operations (Tonga & Mallard on D-Day, 3 times Market Garden and Varsity).
    I already knew about the para jammed in the parachute exit of an Albemarle. This was Albemarle V1704 and your father made 7 runs over the DZ while they were trying to extricate the para!
    I've some documents with your father mentionned on it that I'll scan as soon as I come back home because I must take the train this afternoon so I don't have time to go on.
    If possible and if you're OK, can you send me by private mail the exact year of death of your father, the exact meaning of the 'S' and 'C' of D S C Brierly and all the Squadrons in which he flew to add your father to the other 38 Group veterans in the 'In Memoriam' page of raf38group.org.
    The link is:
    http://www.raf38group.org/inmemoriam
    Here is my email address: raf38groupATgmail.com (replace AT with @).
    Thanks in advance.
    Best regards.

    Bruno
    Bruno LECAPLAIN
    Raf WWII 38 Group Squadrons Reunited <www.raf38group.org>
    Stirling Aircraft Society <stirlingaircraftsoc.raf38group.org>

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    Bruno,

    email on it's way.

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    Hi, The father of a work mate was a pilot with 570 Sqdn at this same time and i think he mentioned your father, i will ask him tomorrow and report back.

    regards Rich Allenby

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