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    Where can Air Force Lists be read please
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    This old thread gives an idea

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2860&highlight=force+list

    per it, according to Errol Martyn,

    "Full or near full sets of the List are held at National Archives at Kew and at the RAF Museum at Hendon"

    A few sample references are, and I stand for correction:

    AIR 10/3814 The Air Ministry Confidential Air Force List: April-May 1939 1939
    AIR 10/3815 The Air Ministry Confidential Air Force List: June-Aug 1939 1939
    AIR 10/3816 The Air Ministry Confidential Air Force List: Oct. and Dec. 1939 1939
    AIR 10/3817 The Air Ministry Confidential Air Force List: Jan.-Apr. 1940 1940
    AIR 10/3818 The Air Ministry Confidential Air Force List: May-Aug. 1940 1940

    etc etc

    Search for 'Air force list'

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    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp
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    Most recent Air Force Lists can be usually found in local/county library reference sections.

    A near complete set is at The National Archives, Kew, in the microfilm reading room bookshelves. I think the IWM has also a near complete set open to public inspection.

    Additional copies reside in many of the private libraries of a few of the members on this board.

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    The Oct 1940 AFL was republished a few years ago and is still available (or was when I last looked on Amazon. The Oct 1945 AFL is available on a CD Rom via Malcolm Barras (a Forum member) and his RAFweb site.

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    Hi Dennis

    The Air Force List stopped giving "where served" information in mid 1938. This was given in a new publication The Confidential Air Force List".

    The AFL is freely open to inspection in The National Archves microfilm reading room but Confidential List needs to be withdrawn from the Document reading room.

    Just as I can give the postings for an officer prewar using the AFL the Confidential list can be used for the same job post war.

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    Are the monthly published Air Force Lists the total accumulation of all officers serving and those leaving at the time of publication or for officers who joined and retired for that month only? I think I might be misunderstanding as hitherto I thought they were only annualy published. Could an expert please clarify? Thank you.

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    Air Force List was initally published monthly, then 4 times a year, then twice a year, then once a year.

    Air Force List contains the Gradation (seniority) in rank of each serving officer, including those classified as reserve.

    Post war a Reserve List was published once a year that contained, name, date of birth, date first commissioned, date retired, retained rank and branch.

    How about telling us what and when you are looking for and we can tell you if the List contains the information rather than giving detailed returns to very general questions.

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    Here are your man's citations from the LG:
    Air Ministry,
    29th May, 1942.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    The KING has been graciously pleased to approve the following awards in recognition of gallantry displayed in flying operations against the enemy:
    Distinguished Flying Cross.
    Acting Squadron Leader Douglas IVESON (86384), Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve,
    No. 76 Squadron.
    This officer has completed many successful sorties including two daylight attacks on Brest. During one of his night sorties, in full moonlight, he was attacked by an enemy fighter but, by his skilful evasive action, his rear gunner was enabled to destroy the attacker. One night in April, 1942, Squadron Leader Iveson was the captain of an aircraft detailed to attack the German naval base at Trondheim. He completed this mission, despite intense anti-aircraft fire and a very light sky. After dropping his bombs, he remained over the target area for some time in order to divert the fire from aircraft which were still attacking. He has displayed courage and keenness of an exceptionally high standard.

    Air Ministry, 11th June, 1943.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    The KING has been graciously pleased to approve the following awards:
    Bar to Distinguished Flying Cross.
    Acting Squadron. Leader Douglas IVESON, D.F.C. (86384), Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve.
    The above awards are for gallantry and devotion to duty in the execution of air .operations.

    Air Ministry, 1st September, 1944.
    The KING has been graciously pleased to approve the following awards in recognition of gallantry displayed in flying operations against the enemy:
    Distinguished Service Order.
    Acting Wing Commander Douglas IVESON, D.F.C. (86384), R.A.F.V.R., 76 Sqn.
    This officer is an outstanding squadron commander whose magnificent leadership, great courage and zeal have inspired all. Since being awarded a Bar to the Distinguished Flying Cross, Wing Commander Iveson has completed many bombing missions against dangerous and difficult targets and the successes obtained reflect the greatest credit on the skill and resolution of this officer. He has rendered much loyal and devoted service.
    Regards, Terry

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    Thank you very much Terry

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    Can anyone please confirm whether the Confidential Air Force List (like the normal AFL) contains the details of Warrant Officers?

    TIA

    Jonny

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