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    Default Unaccounted airwoman and airmen - 6-11-1941

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Killed on active service:
    Sgt (Pilot) Sidney A. HOLLAND - 1382462, and
    F/Sgt (Pilot) Roderick F. SIM - 748347.

    B - Died of wounds or injuries received on active service:
    LAC (Pilot u/t) Leslie STOCK - 1035588.

    C - Not found Flight archives:
    ACW1 Joyce TYLDSLEY-WARBURTON - 430306.

    D - Proposed aircraft losses for this day:
    Hudson I - N7228 - 6 OTU - crashed on approach W.Acklam, Yorkshire (already as casualties on this a/c: Sgt R.H. GLASS - RAAF 400274 and Sgt C.G. QUIRK - RAAF 400421).
    Hurricane I - V7004 - 56 OTU - flew into ground Len Fen Farm, Upwell, 6 miles SE of Wisbech, Lincolnshire.
    Magister I - L8156 - 5 EFTS - flew into ground Marlpit House, near Abbots Bromley, Staffordshire.
    Havoc I - DG555 - 37 MU - spun into ground Burtonwood.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk
    Holland,25, registered at Cheadle, Staffordshire, the right area for Abbots Bromley ?L8156
    Sim,22, registered at Newton Abbot, Devon
    Stock,25, registered at Stoke, Staffordshire
    I found only a Joyce Tyldesley(no Warburton),20 registered at Rotherham SW Yorkshire, but the spelling is slightly different to CWGC(who have no central e and no age, but do have the hyphenated name) and in the register there is no reference to Warburton. She seems to have been from Lancashire as she is buried in Fylde in that County
    Incidentally the deaths of Glass and Quirk are both registered at Cleveland on Teeside in the N E of England, at the time it was regarded as part of N Yorkshire but post war it became the centre of its own "County"
    Regards
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    Last edited by Dick; 15th January 2009 at 19:08.

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    Default Unaccounted airwoman and airmen - 6-11-1941

    Henk, re Hudson N7228, I have only the two named as being on it and an note that it came down near Stainsby Hall Farm, Thornaby.

    As Dick says it was Yorkshire, now Cleveland. The boundary changes could get confusing if you don't know about them and they're still a sticky subject in some quarters.

    regards Rich
    Last edited by Rich Allenby; 15th January 2009 at 20:52. Reason: type error

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    Hi Henk, nothing new for you, only exlusion of some aircraft:

    N7228 - only two casualties, some details on http://www.allenby.info/aircraft/planes/north/n7228.html

    V7004 - no casualty for this plane- see older post
    http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=15204&forum=DCForumI D6&archive=yes

    "One of the few Danes in the RAF, Sgt Jens Ipsen, was badly injured the same day (ie 6/11/41) when his Hurricane, V7004, broke up after hitting a tree in a steep turn during low-flying practice."

    Pavel
    Czechoslovak Airmen in the RAF 1940-1945
    http://cz-raf.webnode.cz

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    Ha, yeah, my website ! My info is still somewhat vague though.

    cheers Rich

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    Hi Henk
    With Rich tying the Hudson down to Thornaby that confirms the 2 at Cleveland as Thornaby was part of the Cleveland reporting area at the time
    Regards
    Dick

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    Both Holland and Stock were with No.5 EFTS as they appear in the ORB for the 6th November.

    November 6th 1941, S/P Holland S.A. killed in flying accident at Abbotts Bromley, struck off strength same day. LAC Stock injured in flying accident, died from injuries 7.11.41.
    Alan Clark

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    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    Henk,

    In the Item Notes of their respective (undigitised) A705s, Glass & Quirk, are the only casualties mentioned for N7228.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 16th January 2009 at 02:45. Reason: minor correction

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    Hi Henk
    Cheadle and Stoke are close enough together for Stock to have reached a Hospital in Stoke-on-Trent and succumbed to his injuries as indicated by Al.
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    Thanks friends for all this valued info. The only discrepancy is that CWGC has LAC STOCK for 6-11-1941 and the ORB died of injuries 7-11-1941 (will keep to the CWGC date).
    Regards,
    Henk.

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