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    Default Unaccounted airwomen and airmen - 7-11-1941

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Killed on active service:
    P/O (Pilot) Harold R. BAKER - 107453, and
    W/O (Pilot) Chales D. MACE - 525691.

    B - Died on active service:
    AC2 Ernest J. BALDRY - 1433982;
    ACW2 Margaret FAWCETT - 448384, and
    ACW2 Kathleen E. PRYOR - 2058740.

    C - Missing, believed killed on active service (while engaged on non-operational flying duties or on the ground through enemy action):
    F/O (Pilot) Norman COX - 66150 (CWGC: 176 Sqn = doubtful because this unit was formed at Calcutta, India, not before 14-1-1943).

    D - Died of wounds or injuries received on active service:
    Sgt (Pilot) Thomas WOODWARD - 1067224.

    E - Not found in Flight archives:
    P/O (Pilot) Frank C.G. WILSON - 44670.

    F - Commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial:
    P/O Basker Daniel GNANAMUTHU - RIAF - age 20 - Panel 64 (This may have been P/O [Pilot] "DANIEL" of 1 IAF who crashed with his Audax K5564 into the Miramshah Hill near Razami, India, after engine failure, also killing LAC Sohan SINGH [both not listed CWGC]).

    G - Proposed aircraft losses for this day:
    Blenheim I - L1149 - 2 (C)OTU - crashed on take-off Catfoss.
    Blenheim I - L6748 - 51 OTU - crashed on overshoot at night Cold Splash Spinney, Bourne End, Bedfordshire, NW of Cranfield (the Spinney is across the border in
    Buckinghamshire, not to be confused with the Bourne End, Buckinghamshire, near Marlow).
    Lysander II - P9183 - 10 Grp AAC Flt - crashed on take-off Staverton.
    Oxford II - N4720 - 14 FTS - flew into ground Braden Green Farm, Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire.
    Oxford I - AT668 - 12 FTS - crashed; no further details.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Harold R. BAKER - age 23, North Bucks District, Buckinghamshire
    Charles MACE - Age 24, Holderness District Yorkshire, (No middle initial in the death register).

    Ernest J. BALDRY - age 18 Norwich district, Norfolk;
    Margaret FAWCETT - Age 18 Swindon district Wiltshire - Wooten Bassett is in this district but she is listed as DOAS?
    Kathleen E. PRYOR - Age 24 Lancaster District, Lancashire.

    F/O (Pilot) Norman COX - Age 37, Chichester District, Sussex. In later 1942 Flight magazine he is listed:
    KILLED ON ACTTVE SERVICE, NOW REPORTED KILLED ON ACTIVE SERVICE

    Cox was commishioned into the Training Branch in Gazette Issue 35183 published on the 6 June 1941. Page 22 of 64.
    TRAINING BRANCH.
    The undermentioned are granted commissions for the duration of hostilities as Acting Pilot Officers on probation: —

    D - Died of wounds or injuries received on active service:
    Sgt (Pilot) Thomas WOODWARD - Age Holderness district.

    P/O (Pilot) Frank C.G. WILSON - Age 21 Eastbourne district, Sussex.
    I found him in 1942 Flight as

    KILLED IN ACTION (WHILE FLYING IN OPERATIONS AGAINST THE ENEMY).—P/O. F . C. G. Wilson.
    Does that make sense?

    A connection between Woodward and Mace likely.
    Last edited by dennis_burke; 17th January 2009 at 14:45.
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    Thanks Dennis. Let's see what else may come up from other visitors of this forum. KIA for WILSON means that he was killed "on ops".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henk Welting View Post
    F - Commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial:
    P/O Basker Daniel GNANAMUTHU - RIAF - age 20 - Panel 64 (This may have been P/O [Pilot] "DANIEL" of 1 IAF who crashed with his Audax K5564 into the Miramshah Hill near Razami, India, after engine failure, also killing LAC Sohan SINGH [both not listed CWGC]).
    Hi Henk

    we discussed in a couple of older threads.

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1429

    At that time I referred to the fact that Basker Daniel's brother is also referred to in the records by his middle name, as stated in

    http://www.rafcommands.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5916&forum=DCForumID 6&archive=yes.

    It seems likely that Basker Daniel GNANAMUTHU, and P/O Daniel are the same person, especially as there is no P/O Daniel on the CWGC

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    Hi Henk
    Baker is in Warner as the solo pilot of L6748 and killed in the accident. Warner does confuse the 2 Bourne Ends.
    Mace and Woodward are also in Warner as killed on L1149 at Catfoss
    Regards
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    Thanks Amrit and Dick for this additional info; will amend my files.
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    Hi Henk,

    Re H R Baker I have the following in my records ...

    51 OTU ORB : Cranfield
    7/11/41 H R Baker crashed in Blenheim L6748 near North Crawley, Bucks. Killed.
    11/11/41 P/O H R Baker N K, G D, killed in a flying accident and struck off strength RAF wef 7.11.41
    1180 : Cat W (fire) 1K 1I Bourne End, N Crawley, Bucks 19.30 hrs
    P/O BAKER H R date of wings 3/7/41 (2 months) 25hrs on type + 68 others (4 night on type+ 1 night others)
    Moon. Night. Pilot throttled back at low height. Flew into ground without realising he was near ground. Paying more attention to drome lights than instrument flying. Instructors comment - did not consult altimeter, a mistake which inexp. pilots may make in spite of continuous warnings from instructor.

    Regards - Colin

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    Thanks Colin for this additional info on BAKER.
    Regards,
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    Nothing more to add except Wilson was ex Royal Artillary. Perhaps a link to a Army C0-op unit?
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    Hello

    P/O (Pilot) Frank C.G. WILSON - 44670 - on the Graves Registration Report Form his unit is given as 1401 Met. Flight. See:

    http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=33084

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    Simon

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