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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 10-11-1941

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Not found Flight archives:
    F/O Cecil C.O. BERMINGHAM - 76272.

    B - Killed in action:
    Sgt (Airgunner) William CARRIE - 1053141 - 144 Sqn (North Luffenham, Rutland).
    Casualty Communique 118 (Flight 19-3-1942) mentions W. "G". CARRIE. May have been killed on a Hampden that safely returned to base (who has access to the 144 Sqn ORB ?).

    Regards and thanks for your help.
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    Henk,

    BERMINGHAM, Flg Off. C.C.O. DOAS. Times. Dec 17, 1941.

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    Hi Henk
    Bermingham,39, registered at Portsmouth, Hampshire
    Carrie, 25, (William G in the register and on CWGC) is registered at Bulmer, N Yorkshire which is some way from N Luffenham.?May have landed en route from an op.
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    Dick

    He would have had a problem landing at Bulmer, North Yorkshire as it hasn't got an airfield. There is RAF Bulmer in Northumberland but that is a Radar Station.

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    I agree with you John, but Bulmer is just the office where his death was registered and it's "cachment" area certainly includes Linton-on-Ouse and may well have included other N Yorkshire airfields and the area covered by Bulmer is quite a way north of Rutland
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    Thanks all; now wait until someone has access to the 144 Sqn ORB. Could CARRIE perhaps been involved in the incident with Hampden AE311 ? Quote from Bill Chorley's Vol. 2 page 181:
    " 9/10 Nov 1941 - 144 Sqn - Hampden I - AE311 - Op: Hamburg. T/o North Luffenham. Crashed 2343 on return to base. The Hampden swung on touch down and collided with the airfield control caravan. The bomber crew escaped with little more than a severe shaking, but two airmen in the caravan were killed AND A THIRD INJURED".
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    Hi Henk
    You may have a point with the injured airman but it still seems unlikely that he would be taken far enough North for treatment for his death to be registered at Bulmer, he is much more likely to have gone to somewhere like Cambridge or Ely. The function of the Bulmer office was taken over post war by York and N Yorkshire.
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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 10-11-1941

    Henk, Ive no recorded flying accidents in Yorkshire on this date.

    I concur, Bulmer is the registration district and does not refer to the place as a crash location.

    To clarify Bulmer, the village near Castle Howard, (and down the road from where I live) had no air accidents there or within three miles of the village so no reason why an accident should be linked to the village name - other villages are much nearer the other crash locations and are refered to on Am1180s.

    Sorry i cant be of more help, regards Rich

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    Thanks Dick and Rich for additional info; much appreciated.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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