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    Default 1320392 Sgt C.j Hole Died 8-10-1943 20 Otu ?

    I found details of 1320392 Sgt Cecil John HOLE RAFVR died 8-10-1943 listed on the Runnymede Memorial. When I checked the RAF Overseas War Deaths 1939-48 register his unit is listed as 20 OTU.

    Now he is not in Chorley's OTU or ROH books. So I was wondering if he was from the crew of Wellington X3662 20 OTU lost 8/10/43 page 254 Bomber Command Losses OTU. Chorley states in his notes that the pilot and three of his crew are listed on the Runnymede Memorial although only three are listed.

    Over to you !

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    http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Surrey/Guildford.html

    The above site lists the men but I assume the author was workign from Chorley. No mention of C J Hole.

    C. J. Hole is listed in the same Casualty Communiques as Missing etc as Sadler in Flight Magazines, but not Puttock. Sadler and Hole don't get a listing until early in 1944 it seems, while Puttock gets published in late 1943.

    If you ordered the three Canadian mens service records there ought to be the answer and more therein.
    Dennis Burke
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
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    Some Canadian crew details for you from the death registrations:

    F/Sgt. Glen Frank Smith, American, from Sherman, Texas, listed as pilot on the certificate. Looks like he crossed the border at Detroit/Windsor to sign up pre-'41.

    F/Sgt. Evan Anderson Macdonald, of Rocky Mountain House, Alberta

    P/O Alfred William Howl, of West Hill (Scarborough, not far from me), Ontario. Cause of death listed as flying accident in Scotland.
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    The 20 OTU ORB doesn't say much about this loss.

    October 8th 1943, “Crash report on Wellington B of “C” Flight sent to 91 Group. 13 Group report dinghy picked up 2 ½ miles off Dunvegan Head bearing No.3662 – identical with number of B of “C” Flight.”
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    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    Thanks for the help

    Mark

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    Default Sgt C J Hole, 8 October 1943

    The late Doug Sim did a lot of research in RAF AR9 in the 1970s which he was kind enough to share with a couple of others including myself; included in the fatalities listed for X3622 was 1320392 Sgt C J Hole RAF (Air Gunner) who is commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

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    Thank you Keith

    Just what I was after, I will pass on Sgt Hole details to Bill Chorley so the crew details can be ammended !

    Thanks again

    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Bryers View Post
    The late Doug Sim did a lot of research in RAF AR9 in the 1970s which he was kind enough to share with a couple of others including myself; included in the fatalities listed for X3622 was 1320392 Sgt C J Hole RAF (Air Gunner) who is commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial.

    Keith

    Keith,
    Typo...............X3622 read X3662.

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    I visited Sadlers grave at the weekend and took a photograph in case anyone wants a copy.

    Regards
    Linzee

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