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    Hello,

    Here is a subject that we have named as a warhead of a false bomb wooden. This object was discovered on a false ground of the Luftwaffe in Brittany.
    The interior is noted for an abbreviation, it is a track to identify this object. RAF? Luftwaffe?

    Mysterious object.


    http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/11/71/61/16/ogive-10.jpg

    http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/11/71/61/16/dsc07610.jpg
    Cordialement,
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    Mit freundlichem Gruß,

    Dan

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    The lettering doesn't look British, more like markings I've seen on German parts. Pete

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    There is a story - perhaps apocryphal - that RAF Blenheims dropped wooden bombs on a Geram decoy site (with wooden aircraft) as a joke ... perhaps this is proof?

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    Chris,
    A similar story exists of the Germans doing the same thing on a dummy airfield site in Lincolnshire!

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    Yes, and believe it or not I have just this afternoon read precisely the same story about decoy wooden bombs on the Staaken decoy site in Berlin in Martin Middlebrook's account of "The Berlin Raids"!

    This is starting to sound like a 1940s urban myth to me...or should that be aerial myth?

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    The mythtery deepens!

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    hello,

    At least a year ago, we had a thread here on the subject of wooden bombs dropped by the R.A.F. on Germany decoy sites on the continent. It was started by a Frenchman who is actually publishing a book (due March 2009).

    My own research in archives (both French and British) has never provided any evidence that wooden bombs ever existed. I have suggested a theory which was rejected by this fellowman, because it was not going in the editorial direction of his book project.

    In occupied countries, the Germans had decoy sites with dummy aircrafts, and dummy bomb stores, roughly made of wooden log. During a real attack a bomb exploded near one of this dummy bombs store and spreaded them away. After the attack, some civilians saw these bombs and wrongly deduced they had been dropped by the bombers and this was the start of the urban legend.

    Here in France I have often heard the story, always from someone who had heard it from someone else (a family member, a neighbour...). No mention in any police report, no wooden bomb found in any museum (only floating bombs, used for training, but much smaller)

    As for Dan's object, to me it looks like the nose cone of a parapack. But without the dimensions, it's hard to tell.

    Joss

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    Here are some photos.

    http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/11/71/61/16/exteri10.jpg

    http://i61.servimg.com/u/f61/11/71/61/16/exteri11.jpg


    Its dimensions are: internal diameter 52.5 cm, outside diameter 59 cm, height 40 cm.


    Is it warheads fitted containers dropped by the RAF for resistance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jossleclercq View Post
    hello,

    At least a year ago, we had a thread here on the subject of wooden bombs dropped by the R.A.F. on Germany decoy sites on the continent. It was started by a Frenchman who is actually publishing a book (due March 2009).

    My own research in archives (both French and British) has never provided any evidence that wooden bombs ever existed. I have suggested a theory which was rejected by this fellowman, because it was not going in the editorial direction of his book project.

    In occupied countries, the Germans had decoy sites with dummy aircrafts, and dummy bomb stores, roughly made of wooden log. During a real attack a bomb exploded near one of this dummy bombs store and spreaded them away. After the attack, some civilians saw these bombs and wrongly deduced they had been dropped by the bombers and this was the start of the urban legend.

    Here in France I have often heard the story, always from someone who had heard it from someone else (a family member, a neighbour...). No mention in any police report, no wooden bomb found in any museum (only floating bombs, used for training, but much smaller)

    As for Dan's object, to me it looks like the nose cone of a parapack. But without the dimensions, it's hard to tell.

    Joss
    I agree my friend Joss, there is the myth and reality, our witnesses say it is a warhead of a bomb made of wood.
    Well we now have an entry on this subject specialists we provide an answer.
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    Dan

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    hello,

    I just don't see the point of building a wooden bomb, then fitting a metal nose cone to it... It was said that it was a joke, unofficial, set up by pilots, but they have needed the help of fitters and armourers. Then if you have to have such metal work done, it's becoming a very elaborate joke, and quite time consuming.

    For Chris, who should be interested, the wooden bombs were dropped in late May 1944 on Salon-de-Provence airfield (on the French Riviera), by Typhoons or Tempests... When I explained why it couldn't be, the planes became Spitfires, but still no evidence, just the statement of a single witness. Others pointed up the many errors in the statement and the way it was collected, but it was useless.

    Dan, a parapack is a container dropped by parachute, usually to support troops (airborne troops more often), sometimes for the resistance. I couldn't find proper pictures in a few minutes through a Google image search, but these are a few examples. But none clearly looking like your example.


    http://www.315group.org/reuniondover_files/image060.jpg

    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1003/1214509288_19175dea87.jpg?v=0

    http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EOGM66x3pcE/Rkrbmh3ig7I/AAAAAAAADDY/CZpztTaJi0k/Militaria+12-05-2007+384.jpg

    http://souvenirsas.ifrance.com/Container+chute2.JPG

    http://genealogie.cantalpassion.com/images/chenier/container.jpg

    http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/diaries/images/art9.jpg

    http://genealogie.cantalpassion.com/images/container.jpg

    http://www.harringtonmuseum.org.uk/stenciling%20containers.jpg


    Joss

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