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    Chorley adds in his Vol.4, Additions and Amendments to Previous Volumes, page 490:
    Sgt (Obs) Paul H. MOREY (916057) and Sgt (Pilot) Lindsay R. WILLIAMS (RAAF 402429) to the casualties of Wellington III X3599 of 57 Sqn.
    However, in my files both airmen are already listed as casualties on Liberator II AL577 of 108 Sqn. (Lindsay confirmed AL577 on National Australian Archives).
    What is correct ?
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    Henk,

    they were both certainly killed on AL577, the Australian casualty files for Hayden and Williams confirm that, I also have RCAf files for King and Goodenough.

    All list Morey and Williams on board.

    I can see that there might be confusion, both aircraft on the same day near by as such.

    Morey is listed as 108 Sqn on CWGC and Williams is 108 Sqn on the AWM Nominall Roll.

    I tried to contact family of Morey but it seems he was an only child. A kind neighbour of his parents wrote to me.
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    How is it possible that such an excellent author as Bill Chorley makes this mistake in his vol.4. Who has contact with Bill and could inform him.
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    I'll mail them from the website:
    http://www.rafinfo.org.uk/BCWW2Losses/

    and see what they say.

    [OK, I've mailed them and I'll await my kicking]
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    Bill has the query and is looking at it.

    Who were the crew of X3599,

    using Geoff's Sullivan site and google I have:

    Harold E Hunter RNZAF - Belfast City Cemetery
    William S Taylor RAFVR - NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE (BYKER AND HEATON) CEMETERY
    John W Elliot - RCAF - BELFAST CITY CEMETERY

    So there should be more names I would think.

    It is an interesting one actually. L R Williams and H W T Sloman of the RAAF are both associated with AL577 as are G F King RCAF and C S Goodenough RCAF. All are in Belfast City Cemetery.

    57 Squadron ORB should be clear about who was onboard I would hope.

    I can't seem to find Hunter, Taylor or Elliot in the Flight Archives.

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    Bill Chorley emails to say that the ammendments should be ignored and deleted etc.

    Williams and Morey should not be associated with X3599.

    Beverage owed to Henk for your 'keen observation'!

    Dennis
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    Dennis,
    It seems that the accident card mentions "six" dead. I also have HUNTER, TAYLOR, ELLIOTT "and" Section Offr (WAAF) Barbara K. BLAKISTON-HOUSTON - 1696.
    A Sgt HENDERSON survived injured.
    Also an unconfirmed source that a 'Chaplain' might have been on board as well.
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    Has Errol Martyns FYT got a list for X3599 for Harold Eric Hunter ?

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    Paul,

    Unfortunately, no!

    I've had his service record file checked but there is no crew listing on it. The accident card apparently shows 6 killed and 1 injured (or died of injuries).

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    Gents,

    From CWGC/GSE.

    Name: CRAWFORD,JAMES DAWSON
    Initials: J D
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Civilian
    Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
    Age: 40
    Date of Death: 16/03/1942
    Additional information: (THE REVD) of 14 King Street, Thetford, Norfolk. Son of Joseph H. Crawford, of Drum, Newbliss, Co. Monaghan, Irish Republic; husband of E.E.Crawford. Died at Eagle Rock, Slieve Donard Mountain.
    Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead.
    Reporting Authority: KILKEEL, RURAL DISTRICT, N.IRELAND.

    Col.

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