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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 18-12-1941

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Died on active service:
    Sgt (WOp/Ag) Kenneth G. PROCTOR - 1105679.

    B - Killed on active service (while engaged on non-operational flying duties or on the ground through enemy action):
    F/Sgt (Pilot) Albert G. GRAVES - 536190;
    Sgt (WOp/Ag) Harry W.G. HEWITT - 1325793;
    Sgt (WOp/Ag) Leslie HOGG - 1325760;
    Sgt (Pilot) Richard H.D. PALMER - 778436, and
    P/O (Obs) Michael B. VAN HEERDEN - 110124 (from South Africa).

    C - Proposed aircraft losses for this day:
    Beaufort I - L9949 - 5 OTU - overshot landing Chivenor.
    Hudson I - T9294 - 6 OTU - u/c collapsed on landing Thornaby.
    Hudson III - V9032 - 6 OTU - crashed on take-off at night 3 miles WSW of Thornaby.
    Master I - N7870 - 8 FTS - crashed in forced landing Soss Moss Hall, Nether Alderley, Cheshire.
    Oxford I - R6322 - 3 FTS - crashed on take-off South Cerney.
    Whitley I - K8995 - 8 AGS - undershot landing Evanton, Ross & Cromarty.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Henk,
    Have checked GRO for Eng/Wales and unless i'm not seeing them, i cannot find anything for any of the airmen you listed, so could be a Scottish (Thornaby)connection to losses.

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    Thanks Alan. Yes must have been casualties of #6 (Coastal) OTU.
    Regards,
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    Thornaby is a long way from Scotland. It was in Yorkshire, then Cleveland and now Teeside.
    The only Scottish connection on your list Henk is Evanton

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    Eddie

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    Re F/S A.G. Graves

    follow this link for more information

    http://www.kentfallen.com/PDF%20REPORTS/CRUNDALE%20WW2.pdf

    dg

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    Graves's death is registered at Cleveland in first Q 1942, the others too probably.

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    DaveW

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    Eddie/Henk,
    Apologies and embarrasment on my behalf, i was thinking Turnberry for Thornaby, (old age creeping in) but to make some ammends to my mistake, have checked GRO for 1st quarter of 1942 and found Hewitt, Hogg and Van Heerden all registered at Cleveland.
    Last edited by AlanW; 25th February 2009 at 16:53.

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    Van heerden, Hogg and Graves are all buried in Thornaby cemetery.

    The deaths are registered in the Cleveland district in the first quarter of 1942, always worth a check.
    Hogg age 27
    Graves age 25
    Hewitt age 21
    Palmer age 27
    Van Heerdan age 23

    http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/cleveland.html
    Thornaby is in this district.

    Its a long shot but there is a 20 year old "George Proctor" registered in the Doncaster district. Doncaster and Ilkley are in east and west Riding Yorkshire respectivly but some one with better knowledge of UK geography can comment.

    Dennis
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    Doncaster and Ilkley were both originally in the West Riding of Yorkshire but are now South and West Yorkshire respectively

    Cheers

    Eddie

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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 18-12-1941

    Henk.

    Pilot of Hudson T9294 was one Sgt Percival RAF, no further details on him other or the incident other than it overshot a landing at Thornaby, I believe he was uninjured,

    Hudson V9032 was a far more serious incident. It crashed into Quarry Farm at Ingleby Barwick killing two thirds of the family in the house at the time, Mr James R Garbutt, aged 39, Mrs Violet M Garbutt, aged 41, Master Alick R Garbutt, aged 8, Master Charles R Garbutt, aged 6.

    Master Garbutt, aged 9, survived. Master Garbutt, aged 11, survived.

    I understand that the house, farm and the land have now been built over by modern housing.

    Bad old boundary change problems again !

    regards Rich

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