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    Henk
    You are right!about1st Qtr 42 but the thing is that from 24/12/ we are in the period that the UK celebrates as the Christmas Holiday and offices frequently shut. Depending on the day of the week the shutdown could last into the New Year hence it is necessary to look at the 1st Qtr of the next year as well as the 4th Qtr of the last.The registration of age as 0 is common for infants under 1 Yr old, my wife has recorded several in 20 years of Family History research, including a potential Uncle of mine had he lived beyond 11Months. A common record when the age is not Known is a simple - and this crops up with both still birth and Air Raid victims where the ID is incomplete beyond the Surname
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    There is a 49 yr old Peter Cunningham registered in Paisley district of Renfrew in 1941, I think that solves that. I'm not going to check the mans death cert.

    Ratclyffe and Callahgan are DOAS, in the same list as Cunningham, Calnon, Mulligan
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    re: Botha I - L6262 - 2 BGS - spun into ground Enfield Bridge, Leigh, Kent. on 24-12-41

    This site suggests that this crash occured on 24-2-41 (I know 24-12-41 came from Air Britain Crash Log) ! with crew as

    "All four crew were killed. Pilot P/O S G Rodd, Sgt G L Pitman (Nav), LAC P L Jackson, AC1 H Davenport. Aircraft completely wrecked and burnt out, all bodies unidentifiable."


    http://www.kenthistoryforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=10770.0;wap2

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    Name: RODD, SIDNEY GUY
    Initials: S G
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Pilot Officer (Pilot)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Age: 37
    Date of Death: 24/02/1941
    Service No: 85646
    Additional information: Son of Sidney and Larhini Rodd, of Chelmsford.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

    Name: PITMAN, GEOFFREY LEO
    Initials: G L
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Sergeant
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Date of Death: 24/02/1941
    Service No: 742144
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Plot C.C.1. Grave 28.
    Cemetery: MAIDSTONE CEMETERY, Kent

    Name: JACKSON, PHILLIP LESLIE
    Initials: P L
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Leading Aircraftman
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Age: 20
    Date of Death: 24/02/1941
    Service No: 948099
    Additional information: Son of James Thomas Jackson and Phyllis Jackson, of Selly Oak, Birmingham.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Plot 20D. Grave 14.
    Cemetery: BIRMINGHAM (LODGE HILL) CEMETERY

    Name: DAVENPORT, HAROLD
    Initials: H
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Aircraftman 1st Class
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
    Date of Death: 24/02/1941
    Service No: 980614
    Additional information: Son of John and Margaret Davenport, of Spring View, Wigan, Lancashire.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Plot C.C.1. Grave 31.
    Cemetery: MAIDSTONE CEMETERY, Kent


    All Deaths registered Q1 1941

    Pitman Geoffrey L 22 Sevenoaks 2a 2695A
    Rodd Sidney G 39 Sevenoaks 2a 2696
    Jackson Philip L 20 Sevenoaks 2a 2695
    Davenport Harold 20 Sevenoaks 2a 2695

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    Hello Paul,

    I will pass the details on to Jim Halley.

    DaveW

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    Thanks Paul; four names "off the list".
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Hello

    AC2 Robert A.D. CALLAGHAN - 1401603 and
    AC2 John H. CALNON - 1441351 - the Birmingham Mail of December 27th 1941 reported:

    Two aircraft hands were killed when they were walking along the London Road between Stretton and and the Blue Board and they were knocked down by a car. They were Robert Archie Dennis Callaghan (aged 18), of Southampton, who was killed instantly, and John Henry Calnon (aged 19), of Holborn, who died in the Rugby Hospital.

    LAC Eric S. HAILES - 1202572 - the Nottingham Journal of Janaury 3rd 1941 reported the following:

    Airman's Death at Sneinton Dale
    An airman's death while home on Christmas leave was the subject of a Nottingham inquest yesterday, when the Ciry Coroner (Mr. W. S. Rothera) recorded that Aircraftman Eric Stanley Hailes (28) , of 52, Rossington Road, Sneinton Dale, Nottingham, died from the causes given in the medical evidence: cardiac failure with cranial haemorrhage and acute alcoholism.


    AC1 Vincent J. MULLIGAN - 1309661 - the National Probate Calendar has James Vincent Mulligan, of 4 Carnlough Road, Cabra West Dublin, died 24 December 1941 at The Packway, Larkhill, Wilts.

    AC1 Raymond ROBERTS - 1121239 - the Manchester Evening News of December 27th 1941 reported the following:

    ROBERTS, on the 24th inst. in a military hospital, A.C.1. RAYMOND ROBERTS, the dearly-loved youngest son of Mr. and Mrs. F. W. Roberts, of 20, Leicester Avenue, Timperley.

    After a little digging, I came across this, from the Daily Record, January 28th 1942:

    Motors Crash in Black-Out
    After a proof lasting several hours in Inverness Sherrifs Court yesterday, Tainsh Aird, motor mechanic, Oakbank, Lentran, Inverness-shire, was fined 10 and his driving licence endorsed on being found guilty of driving a motor-car recklessly and in a manner dangerous to the public.
    Evidence was given that a party of airmen were paraded on a public road in he black-out when Aird's car ran into them. Seven men were injured, and one, Rayond Roberts, died.
    Mr. John MacBean, solicitor, agent for Aird, said there had been appalling negligence when a party of airmen were paraded on a public road without lights to warn traffic of their presence.
    Sherriff P. J. Grant said he took into consideration that possibly other people were at fault.


    So, from those two articles, the Statutory Deaths Register on the Scotland's People website records that Roberts died at 8.45 a.m at Ragmore Hospital, Inverness, due to heart failure resulting from injuries resulting from being knocked down by a car.

    Regards

    Simon

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