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    The crew of FK499 were S/L George Hector Reid, P/O William Campbell and Sgt Gordon A Seward. They apparently survived that accident as their names do not appear on the CWGC or Veterans' Affairs sites.
    The accident report is on reel C-5937 at LAC, I have not looked at it.
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    Gents,

    Seward, possibly;

    Name: SEWARD,GORDON ANZAC
    Service: Royal Australian Air Force
    Service Number: 411841
    Date of Birth: 26 Feb 1917
    Place of Birth: WESTON, NSW
    Date of Enlistment: 25 May 1941
    Locality of Enlistment: Unknown
    Place of Enlistment: SYDNEY, NSW
    Next of Kin: SEWARD,GEORGETTE
    Date of Discharge: 5 Dec 1945
    Rank: Flight Lieutenant
    Posting at Discharge: 313 FTU*
    WW2 Honours and Gallantry: None for display
    Prisoner of War: No

    * No.313 Ferry Training Unit. North Bay, Ontario.

    Col.
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    Hudson FK499 is mentioned in Ocean Bridge Page 168 as


    "Later in the month it was announced that French West Africa had joined the
    Allies. Phillips and his fellow prisoners were soon rescued and moved from Bamako to Freetown in the British colony of Sierra Leone. On 20 January 1943 they were
    moved to Accra and then flown to West Palm Beach in Don Teel's Magic Carpet. Later the three airmen learned to their great satisfaction that Hudson FK499, impounded at Cotonou, was eventually repaired and went into service with the RAF"

    Which begs question as to what one Christie was actually meaning

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    The original question suggested that all four crew members were from the US although the news story called it an RCAF bomber.

    Further to the USAAF quote I gave from Christie... in addition to that big push by the Americans, there was close cooperation by both ferrying services along the south shore of the St. Lawrence with detachments moving around to each others bases at times, so that might explain a US crew flying east of Montreal.

    If the censors did get at this story - and the ferry services were subject to some secrecy measures - then we are all wandering in the dark, I think. It would be nice to see what the local paper had on it.
    David

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    Ocean Bridge confirms FK499 Crew F/Lt George Phillips, F/O Bill Campbell and Sgt Seward. Aircraft forcelanded on Oct 1st 1942 in French West Africa and NOT lost in water. Lockheed Twins also says lost 1st Oct 1942 but says ditched off West Africa. But Ocean Bridge quotes interview with Seward which confirms aircraft forcelanded and crew details. Going back to original query maybe Ventura?

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    Has this been solved???? - I wonder if the "RCAF Bomber" is a PBY-5A Catalina ?


    http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31356

    The story fits AND Matane is near Anticosti Island and the numbers fit...

    If so we need the serial number of the catalina

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    I just measured the distance and Anticosti Island is at least 150 miles from Matane if not more. I would also wonder about the eye-witness accounts of it being a Hudson - I would think people of the time would have recognized a CAT, unless, as suggested before, the censors had a go at this one.

    A real poser for the sleuth in us all.
    David

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    OK.. Its this one.. !!


    421102 OA-10 43-3266 ATC Presque Isle AAF, ME TOA 5 Zimmerman, Harry J CAN Mingan, Ontario

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    G'day Chaps

    How timely. Check the following out.

    Cheers...Chris

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2009/08/06/plane-wreckage.html

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    Hi Paul, as they say in the old game, "you're getting colder!" Presque Isle is in Ontario, much further west of Matane.
    David

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