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    Default Hurricane on Antikythera (Greek island) 1941

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    Hi guys

    One for our Greek friends (and others)

    Is there any evidence that an RAF Hurricane and a Bf109 crash-landed on the same beach on the island of Antikythera in May 1941?

    HAVING JUST RE-READ THE PASSAGE, I NOW REALISE THAT THE HURRICANE AND Bf109 APPARENTLY CAME DOWN ON THE TIP OF SOUTHERN GREECE, PROBABLY NEAR ARGOS.

    If so, further details would be appreciated.

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    5-5-41 - V7773 - 33 Sqn - crashlanded Argos and later destroyed in air raid.
    5-5-41 - V7760 - 208 Sqn - pres. lost over Greece.
    26-5-41 - V7732 - 80 Sqn - abandoned at Argos.
    30-5-41 - P3732 - 33 Sqn - pres. lost in Greece.
    30-5-41 - V7419 - 33 Sqn - pres. lost in Greece.

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    Hello Brian,

    Get someone to accurately translate this:-

    A.

    Abb, 10-62, 10-63.

    Die "schwarze 1" of Ofw. Werner Petermann von der 5./JG 77 nach dessen Bauchlandung am Strand nahe Malemes am 20. Mai 1941; Petermann geriet danach in britische Gefangenschaft und wurde dabei schwer verwundet - vgl. den nebenstehenden Bericht. Seine Maschine tragt den unveranderten 40er-Anstrich mit einem schmalen gelben Rumpfband vor dem Balkenkreuz.

    Britische PK-Aufnahmen.

    B.

    Ofw. Werner Petermann. 5./JG 77 KG.
    Flaktreffer, Kreta, Bauchlandung am Strand bei Chanea, 100%.
    Bf 109 E-7 WNr.3487 sw. 1 +.

    See;
    Geschichte des Jagdgeschwaders 77. Teil 1 1934 - 1941.
    Prien,Jochen.
    Eutin:Struwe-druck,1992.
    A. p.584.
    B. p.585.

    The two photographs are well-known. One of them depicts a Hurricane and a Bf109 crash-landed on a beach near Maleme, Crete, on May 20, 1941. The 109, "Black 1", was piloted by Oberfeldwebel Werner Petermann, of 5./JG 77, who was taken prisoner severely wounded. His aircraft is in a 40s' style paint scheme, with a small yellow fuselage band in front of the fuselage cross. The photographs themselves were probably sourced from the IWM.

    The combat is descibed here:-

    Air War for Yugoslavia,Greece and Crete 1940-41
    Shores,C.,Cull,B & N.Malizia.
    London:Grub Street,1987.
    p.342.

    Sound familiar!

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 11th March 2009 at 14:52. Reason: minor corrections

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    Default Messerschmitt down near Argos?

    Thanks Henk and Col

    Yes, I do remember but 'my' man is Adolf Dickfeld of II/JG77 who implies that he was shot down and crash-landed on a beach on the tip of Greece, probably not far from Argos (see his book 'Footsteps of the Hunter'). This may have occurred on 16 May 1941.

    Cheers
    Brian

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    G'day Brian,

    Dickfeld was a member of III./JG 52. This unit was attached to JG 77, but did not arrive in the area until 28/29-5-41. So your incident must have occurred on, or after that date.

    Col.

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    Default Dickfeld in Greece

    Hi Col

    Dickfeld implies that he was in Athens and flew a sortie to Crete BEFORE the invasion had begun (20 May). Perhaps he arrived with an advance echelon?

    Cheers
    Brian

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    Hello Brian,

    The JG 77 history states that on 28-5-42, III./JG 52 had an establishment of 22/18 a/c. (p.606). The reason for the transfer of III./JG 52 from Rumania, was to make up for the heavy losses sustained by JG 77 during the Crete campaign. This does not preclude an earlier arrival of personnel.

    Looks like a job for LEMB, or TOCH.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 12th March 2009 at 05:10. Reason: minor addition.

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