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    Hi All,

    Can anyone find any information whatsoever on a F/O (Post war S/Ldr.) D. Grossey. I think he was promoted to F/O just prior to the outbreak of the second world war. I have searched the LG but with no success.

    Many thanks,

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    Hi Russ,

    Your source is quite a bit out on the dates i'm afraid.

    From The Royal Air Fprce Retired List 1975
    Grossey D C, 26 May 1921. Commissioned 8 July 1954. S/Ldr 1 Jan 1971. Ret GD 31 Dec 1973.

    He was commissioned from a Flight Sergeant 569727

    to Pilot Officer Dennis Charles GROSSEY (569727).

    http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/40250/supplements/4618

    Got a MiD in 1966
    http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/44196/supplements/13466

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    The closest is a post war airman, where is your reference to him being prewar commishion? If he was he ought to turn up in the Fligth Archives also.

    Earliest Grossey in LG and Flight is 511044 Charles Seymour GROSSEY
    (45I99) who died in a crash in Ireland in Auguest 1943.


    As Pilot Officers (Branch Officers):—
    Flight Sergeants.
    8th July 1954.
    569727 Dennis Charles GROSSEY (569727).

    SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 15th JANUARY 1974
    Retirement
    Squadron Leaders :
    Squadron Leader D. C. GROSSEY (569727) (at own request). 31st Dec. 1973.

    I think they were related as both are likely born in Portsmouth district and C S Grossey was brother of Raymond C Grossey killed on 4th September 1939.
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    Thanks Dennis and Ross,

    I've puzzled over this for some years now but that clears up why he is not listed in the LG during WWII. However, the mess dress jacket is clearly labeled F/O D Grossey and dated 3/9/39, the waistcoat being Kings Crown and the Jacket Queens Crown ranked to S/Ldr. and dated as I said 1939. I am assuming now it may have been a misprint??

    Dennis, are assuming D C Grossey was related to C S and R C Grossey?

    Many thanks again,

    Russ

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    I confirmed it again on a family tree on Ancestry.com, which reminds me I must contact that person again.

    You mention a uniform, is this from an auction or from family or other. I ask only because I'd like to contact the family due to Dennis's death in Ireland.

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    Articles of uniform (including Mess Dress) for an RAF officer could have been tailored for him, perhaps in 1939, then sold on when and if that officer left the service for any reason. As Mess Dress was NOT required to be possessed by RAF officers for the duration of WW2 (except in India and the Far East, and then only till December 1941), it is quite likely that this Mess Dress was not used at all during this period, then re-emerged when Mess Dress was reintroduced at RAF Officer Messes in (1947?) but may have changed hands before reaching "your man". Although it was normal for tailored items to have a tailor's label, including a date of manufacture and a tailors reference number, it was often the owner who added his own name on such items (although sometimes this was also put on by tailor, as these were "bespoke" items). Thus your man may have been the first to actually christen these items, even if not the original owner. Perhaps this could explain the journeys of these items?
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    Thanks David,

    The label is all typed, including his name. It reads......

    'Name: F/O D. Grossey
    Order no. E.82
    Date: 3-9-39'

    The maker is R. E. City Ltd, London W1

    Also the outline remains of the flying badge which is of a pilot.

    Russ

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    Russ,
    I am stumped, unless this was a different F/O D Grossey to those already mentioned, perhaps RAAF or RCAF (who would NOT appear in the LG or RAF Lists)? I state this as it would surely be normal to have both his initials recorded on these items by the tailor (getting desperate to explain these artifacts here!)
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    Russ,
    On further reflection, an RAAF or RCAF officer of this name seems highly unlikely; more probably, as you have already suspected, a problem with the tailor's original date (1959 rather than 1939?)
    David D

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    Hello
    Squadron Leader Dennis Charles Grossey was my father. He died in Devon in 1991. What was the query about dress uniform please?
    Eleanor

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