2 Jan 1941

**malcolm_raf** · 21st March 2009, 16:40

Hi All

More loose ends I'm trying to tie up

Sgt LENOX ATLAS THOMAS HAWKER, 45 Sqn
AC2 JOHN KINLOCH, 106 Sqn, registered East Retford
Plt Off ALEC MAXTONE WRIGHT SCOTT, 605 Sqn registered Witney
Plt Off ROCHEFORD CLIVE STOKES, registered Bridgend
Sgt ROBERT HENRY COLLARD, registered Cardiff
Sgt ROBERT ERNEST RULE, registered Fylde

Malcolm

**Errol Martyn** · 21st March 2009, 22:21

Malcolm,

Are you sure about 45 Sqn for Hawker?

There is no mention of him in the nominal roll in Jefford's 'The Flying Camels - the history of No 45 Sqn, RAF'.

Errol

**malcolm_raf** · 21st March 2009, 23:00

Errol

45 Sqn was quoted on CWGC but I am dubious as he is buried in Harare so I suspect he had previously served in 45 and this is what was advised to CWGC.

Malcolm

**Errol Martyn** · 21st March 2009, 23:17

Malcolm,

When I check the CWGC online I cannot see any reference to his unit at all. Jefford does not have him on either his Roll of Honour or on his Nominal Roll, so I think we can be fairly confident that he was never with 45 Sqn.

Errol

**COL BRUGGY** · 22nd March 2009, 07:18

Hi Malcolm,

Plt Off ALEC MAXTONE WRIGHT SCOTT

2-1-1941
No.605 Squadron
Hurricane II Z2383

Iced up and crashed near Brize Norton.

76023 P/O.A.M.W.SCOTT Killed.

Col.

**malcolm_raf** · 22nd March 2009, 08:55

Hi Errol

I've rechecked and have no idea were I got 45 Sqn from, probably just a mis-type on my part.

Col

Thanks for info on Scott

Malcolm

**jossleclercq** · 22nd March 2009, 19:24

hello,

It could be 45 Squadron, but not R.A.F. ! We've had a similar case a couple of months ago, the number was right, but it was a S.A.A.F. unit if I remember well. I've also seen a few occurence where the number was right, but it was not a Squadron, a flight or an O.T.U., F.T.U., etc...

As he's buried in Harare, it's likely to be a training unit which was then based in Southern Rhodesia.

my two cents worth...

Joss

**malcolm_raf** · 22nd March 2009, 19:49

Joss

Many thanks, I also suspect he was with one of the schools in Southern Rhodesia.

Malcolm

**rockman** · 1st January 2012, 09:03

Apologies if you have now found the information you were looking for but I came across this forum whilst "googling" for Lenox Hawker.

Clearing out some of my deceased relative's belongings I found an envelope which contained a card entitled:

In Loving Memory
of
Sgt-Pilot LENOX A. T. (PETER) HAWKER
ROYAL AIR FORCE
Who was killed on 2nd January, 1941
whilst flying in Southern Rhodesia, Africa.

AGED 20 YEARS

His parents lived in Chard Road, Heavitree, Exeter.

Also on the Commonwealth War Grave Commision Site there is an entry (containing his Service number):

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2617363

which says he is buried in Harare (PIONEER) Cemetery. It also states that he was part of the RAF Volunteer Reserve.