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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 17-1-1942

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Died on active service:
    AC2 Albert CULLEY - 1528892 - age 37;
    S/Ldr Francis J. GRACEY - 31143, and
    AC2 Herbert R. JOHNSTON - 1338245.

    B - Killed on active service:
    Sgt (Pilot) Edwin T. GRIFFITH - 934540.

    C - Not found Flight archives:
    Sgt Frederick C. ROBBINS - 1326775 - age 48.

    D - Also looking for the unit of:
    F/O James F.H. STEVENS - svcnr unknown - commemorated on Panel 289 of the Runnymede Memorial. (Panel 289 for that date a too high number and was his grave probably lost post war or came the info from MoD to CWGC at later date).

    E - Proposed aircraft losses:
    Blenheim I - L1183 - 2 (C)OTU - crashed on take-off Catfoss.
    Hurricane I - P3774 - 56 OTU - crashed in forced landing Gedney Drove, near Holbeach, Lincolnshire.
    Oxford I - T1046 - 15 FTS - crashed on overshoot at night 1 mile S of Kidlington (already as a casualty on this a/c: LAC [P u/t] G.W.J. DODGE - 1331421).
    Oxford I - P8830 - 15 FTS - crashed on approach Weston-on-the-Green.
    Master II - AZ263 - 8 FTS - flew into high ground Tillentich Hill, near Torphins, Aberdeenshire.
    Oxford II - AB661 - 12 FTS - undershot landing at night Harlaxton.
    Proctor III - HM314 - 1 SS - involved in a collision 1 mile NE of Cranwell (Air Britain Serials: DBR in accident 17-1-19"43" !).

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Hi Henk
    The only one I found for certain is Culley,37, registered at Newbury,Berkshire.
    I did find a Frederick C Robbins registered at E Glamorgan,S Wales but his age was 56 and I didn't find him in CWGC to check the age
    Griffith didn't come up on the register although CWGC has him as buried at Morden,Surrey, neither did Gracey, but CWGC has him as buried at Lossiemouth, Morayshire,Scotland so if he died up there he is out of my range
    For L1183 at Catfoss, Warner reports the a/c as DBF but the solo pilot,P/O R Rose as safe
    Regards
    Dick
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    Hi Dick

    I have Rose as (also?) being on V5812 on 26/4/41 and baling out and the aircraft crashing at Routh. Does Warner concur? I also have him as a F/Lt.

    Cheers

    Eddie

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    Re Griffiths, the death register records the place of death clearly as 'Learney Hill, Tillenturk, Torphins, Aberdeenshire. There was obviously an error in transcription when the ABS list was made up.

    regards

    DaveW

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    Culley as above:
    There is a Francis J Gracey age 51 is in Scotland, district not found.

    Johnston doesn't seem to return in Scotland either.

    Griffith is not in Scotland either.

    Sgt F C Robins (one b) is in Flight mar 19th 1942 and CWGC.
    And he is DOAS
    He is not in Scotland registers





    Stevens appears born 1891 from FreeBMD.
    For info:

    Gazette Issue 32901 published on the 25 January 1924. Page 9 of 96
    Air Ministry,
    25th January, 1924.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Wing Commander Percival Kinnear WISE,
    C.M.G-., D.S.O., is placed on. half-pay, scale
    B. 22nd Dec. 1923.
    Observer Officer James Frank Hayden STEVENS to take rank and precedence as if his appointment as Observer Officer bore date 16th Oct. 1922, immediately following the name of Flying Officer Gordon Valentine CAREY on the gradation list. The reduction to take effect from 18th Dec. 1923.
    Last edited by dennis_burke; 24th March 2009 at 14:14. Reason: Finished after lunch!
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    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Hi All,

    Rose, in fact, AUS270 Bruce Frederick ROSE DFC RAAF.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 24th March 2009 at 13:42. Reason: Minor correction

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    Gents

    Gracey died of natural causes at Lossiemouth.

    I should have highlighted that Griffith is spelled Griffiths in the Scottish register.

    regards

    DaveW

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    Hi Henk,

    Stevens is listed in the Addenda of the Runnymede Memorial printed register.

    I have him as died Gosport Age 50 Service number 13078 (RAF List 10/1940)
    F/O 16-10-1922 Retired

    Mark

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    The following was recorded by No.8 FTS:

    January 17th 1942, 934540 Sgt E.T. Griffith (Instructor) and 626055 Cpl D. McNeilly (Pupil
    of No.40 Course) killed in Master AZ263. Machine crashed in conditions of bad visibility
    while returning from a Cross Country flight at Tillenturk Hill of Fare near Banchory.
    Accident investigated by Wing Commander Simpson on 21st January 1942.
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    Thanks Al; missed Cpl McNEILLY completely in my files. Amended.
    Best regards,
    Henk.

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