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    Default Unaccounted airwoman and airmen - 10-2-1942

    What were the places of death registration for:

    A - Died on active service:
    AC2 John GLEN - 1480420;
    AC2 Gerald HARPER - 1481465;
    ACW1 Mabel JONES - 445052, and
    AC2 James H. PLANT - 1558228.

    B - Died of wounds or injuries received on active service:
    LAC (Pilot u/t) John W.G. JOHNSON - 1386549.

    C - Not found Flight archives:
    Sgt Thomas E. CARR - 973177 - 256 Sqn (Squires Gate, Lancashire).

    D - Proposed aircraft losses for this day:
    Blenheim IV - T1885 - 51 OTU - overshot landing at night Cranfield.
    Hurricane I - P2693 - 59 OTU - crashed on landing Crosby.
    Oxford II - P1092 - 15 FTS - crashed on overshoot at night Weston-on-the-Green.
    Tiger Moth II - T7111 - 21 EFTS - dived into ground Booker.
    Tiger Moth II - R5080 - 6 FIS - flew into ground Kinnersley, Worcestershire.
    Master II - AZ311 - 52 OTU - dived into ground Severn House Farm, near Berkeley, Gloucestershire.

    Regards and thanks for your help.
    Henk.

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    Default Unaccounted airman - 10-2-1942 (Far East)

    Looking for aircraft type and serial (probably Blenheim lost over Malaya) killing:
    S/Ldr (Pilot) Kenelm C.V. DUNDAS - DFC - MiD - 41000 - RAF (from Canada) - 211 Squadron (Palembang, Sumatra, NEI) - commemorated on Column 411 of the Singapore (Kranji) Memorial.
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    Forgot to mention that Sgt (Pilot) J.A. ARN - RCAF R/83133 (from USA) already is in my files being killed on Master AZ311 of 52 OTU.

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    Blenheim Z7699, shotdown by AA when three Blenheims attacked Kluang airfield (from Shores et al "Bloody Shambles").

    Warner gives the other crew members as:

    F/O G Richie RAAF
    Sgt J Keeping RAAF

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    The Casualty - Repatriation files of the Australian archives listed Keeping and Flg Off George RITCHIE George 400543 aboard Blenheim MK IV Z7699 lost at "Kluang, Sumatra".

    The file from Ritchie has been digitalized and is accessible online. Contrary to what is written in teh summary (lost aboard Blenheim MK 1V Z7586 between Palembang and Kluang, Samatra), the digitalized report shows that he was aboard Z7699.

    Blenheim IV Z699
    Unit: 211 Sqn
    Between Palembang 2 and Kluang
    Date an time 10/2/42 between 0200 and 0900 hours
    AUS 400453 P/O Ritchie G R
    AUS 404295 Sgt Keeping J
    All missing on operations
    Cause of crash unknown

    According to the file, both Australian airmen were found buried beside a twin engined plane in Mankibol Rubber Estate, at Kluang, and reburied to Kranji War Cemetery, SIngapore, after the war. The body of the pilot, Sqn Ldr Dundas, was "not recoverable". The wreckage was identified by the serial number. The airmen were buried near it by the Japanese.

    By the way, Kluang is in Malaya, 60 miles north of Singapore. The aircraft started from Sumatra but crashed in Malaya.

    Edit: by the way, there is an Internet webpage about S/Ldr (Pilot) Kenelm C.V. DUNDAS:
    http://users.cyberone.com.au/clardo/kcvd_dundas.html

    Also on Keeping:
    http://users.cyberone.com.au/clardo/jb_keeping.html

    The 211 Sqn in Sumatra:
    http://users.cyberone.com.au/clardo/sumatra___java.html

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    Hi Henk
    Firstly, Warner records no injuries to P/O Houdret and crew on Blenheim,T1885
    Harper,36, registered at Amounderness, Lancashire. The area was formed out of parts of Fylde and Preston. Crosby is also Lancashire but is not on the list for Amounderness
    Johnson,19,registered at Swindon, Wiltshire
    Carr,24,registered at Fylde, Lancashire
    Arn, registered at Thornbury, Gloucestershire the area that covers Berkeley
    Mabel Jones,22,registered at Edmonton, Middlesex, N London
    Neither Glen nor Plant came up on the register
    Regards
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    Thanks Amrit and Laurent for this quick and excellent response.
    Regards,
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    Thanks Dick for your - as ever - quick response.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Sgt T E Carr is DOAS in Flight march 26th, 42, name scanned as Sgt. T. E. Can; Searched for T. E. C and T. E. Ca would have found him first time.

    There is a James Henry Plant age 35 on the Scotish register, Tingwall district of Shetland.

    There is a 26 year old John Glen in Scotland but I ran out of patience and didn't drill down to the district. Some other time maybe.
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    Carr was killed in a car when it was involved in a collision with a Defiant.

    No.3 SGR ORB:

    February 10th 1942, “17.00 hrs Defiant T4004 piloted by P/O Tweedale collided with private motor car by perimeter track at A Flight dispersal. Sgt Carr, passenger in the motor car killed. Sgts Newell and Dove, also passengers in car, seriously injured. Pilot and car driver unhurt.”

    No.256 Sqn ORB:

    February 10th 1942, “Defiant aircraft involved in collision with car on perimeter track, causing the death of Sgt Carr (AG) serious injuries to Sgt Dove, and slight injuries to Sgt Newell.”
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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