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    Hi guys,

    With the AIR27 files there are also files with appendices.Could someone please tell me what to find in those files?I am planning to order a copy from a raid in the ORB 12 squadron file (AIR27/168) but there are also the AIR/170/171 appendices from 12 Squadron.And I was wondering what to find in those files.

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    Mike

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    Hi Mike,

    it depends... From my own experience there can be some orders (maybe you will also find there order for your raid), reports to the Group HQ, etc.

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    Pavel,

    Thank's for clearing this up for me.

    Mike

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    Hi Mike,

    I am in the process of transcribing 263 Sqn's ORBs. This particular (Fighter-Bomber) squadron has a set of 3 "Appendicies", the first being mainly nominal rolls, summaries of events, results of training exercises and the like, plus a few combat reports. The other two are almost exclusively copies of signals and reports summarising operations. For major operations, the reports often include hand-drawn diagrams of the target layout and courses flown to attack. They are very extensive and run to over 800 pages (some duplicates).

    I'm not familiar with Bomber squadron ORBs, but I would imagine they are similar. It probably depends on the diligence of the Adjutant at the time.

    HTH,

    Jeff

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    Hi Jeff,

    Thanks for your message.It seems it is worthwhile to look into ' Appendicies ' when I hopefully will visit Kew in the near future.

    By the way in my researching area there is also a 263 Sgdn.crash.December 26,1944 F/L Donald James Stanley Turner crashed with his typhoon in my hometown Zwolle where he also is buried.Is there something to find about Dec.26,1944 in the 263 Sqdn ORB?However I am not sure you are already that far with transcribing the ORBs.

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    Mike

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    Hi Mike,

    As it happens, I have just finished proof-reading that particular section. Regarding F/Lt Turner:

    From the F540:

    B.70 Antwerp
    26th October

    Only one operation was carried out today, and in this 12 aircraft took part. It was an armed recce and interdiction in the Zwolle area. 8 of the aircraft were carrying bombs and the other four long range tanks as fighter escort. An attack was made on the Zwolle-Deventer railway but only near misses could be claimed, but it is thought that the line was probably cut. We lose another pilot on this operation as F/Lt D.J. Turner's aircraft exploded at about 500 feet and he must have been killed instantly. F/Lt Turner had only been with the Squadron a short while and will be sadly missed.


    From the F541:

    December, 1944
    26th
    Typhoon 1B
    D.D.231

    Up: 12:14
    Down: 13:45

    S/L R.D. Rutter, F/L D.J. Turner,
    F/Os. A.R.S. Proctor, W.G. Kemp, M.S.M. Hamilton,
    W/Os. D.C. Todd, P.J. McNinley,
    F/Ss. J. Quigley, R.W. Ainsley, J. Irvine, J.J. Morgan

    This operation was an armed recce and interdiction. The line was attacked at Z920250 where 2 near misses with 1000 lb. bombs were claimed, the line possibly being damaged. The line at Z895172 was also attacked and 3 near misses with 500 lb. bombs were claimed. F/Lt. Turner's aircraft was seen to explode in the air over the target area and he is believed killed.

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    Jeff

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    Jeff,

    Thanks a lot for this information!Much appreciated.

    regards

    Mike

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