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    Default Wanted: Czech grave research specialist

    Dear board visitors,

    I need help of someone who lives preferably in the Bohemian/Moravian area to try some research on the existence of a gravesite. This is possibly the wrong place for my request but I´will try my luck:
    I´m looking for the grave of a Czech airman who served with the German air force (Jagdgeschwader 11). His personal statisticals are:

    TVRDIK (or maybe TURDIK),
    Otto,
    born 27. Jun. 1920,
    merchant,
    date of death is given as "Aug. 1944" - I am sure it was 02. August, when a lethal training accident took place at an airfield in my vicinity.
    Tvrdik is listed missing at the German Red Cross but I assume he is buried in his home town or at a Czech military cemetery.

    Thanks a lot, George

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    Hi George,

    you are quite lucky. I am living in prague, the Czech capital.
    I ma not specialist of Czech airmen serving in the Luftwaffe as they were enemies of "my men" serving with the RAF.

    But now seriously - I will be glad to help you.
    I can confirm that the surname is Tvrdik.

    But it is quite a problem to find the cemetery as you do not provide his home town. I am pretty sure that he will be not on official Czech Military Cemetery. Also there is no central German Military Cemetery in Czech Republic.

    I will try to have a look or I will ask some friends who are researching airmen killed over Czechoslovakia maybe they will be able to point us to the correct direction.

    But if you have any more details about him please contact me by PM or off board on email in my Profile

    Pavel
    Czechoslovak Airmen in the RAF 1940-1945
    http://cz-raf.webnode.cz

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    Hi George, if you will visit http://www.luftwaffe.be/miajg11.html, there Erik Mombeeck wrote:

    27/08/44 Uffz. Ottokar Tvrdik 1./JG 11 Fw 190 A-8 (171474)
    White 15 Combat, area of Paris

    So are you still sure it is your man?

    Pavel
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    Hi Pavel,

    thanks for your ready and quick response. I tend to say "it´s always the same" although it is only sometimes the case - obviously the clerks of JG 11 have mixed up two or more entries. The "Suchbildliste" of the German Red Cross for missing soldiers and civilians who served with the Wehrmacht merely states "Aug. 44, Moenchengladbach" for time and location of death as well as "CSSR" for the place of birth.
    The background of my request is the following: Squadrons 1, 2, 3, 10 and 11 of JG 11 underwent a training schedule for FW 190 familiarization from 1. to 17. Aug 1944. The units were stationed at Mönchengladbach on 1. Aug. and moved to Boenninghardt the next day. There were three fatal accidents: 2., 5. and 15. August. The last two casualties are known by name but the first one isn´t so far. There were no casualties at Moenchengladbach. That´s how I came up with Tvrdik.
    In case he died near Paris, he should be buried on a German military cemetery in France. Maybe you and your mates have the opportunity to check this out as well - I hope I can do a comparable favour in return.

    Thanks once again, George

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    Hi George,
    unfortunately I have no contact for people who can check this info in France.
    The only think what I can recommend to you is to try http://www.volksbund.de/ - German War Graves Commision. I hope they will be able to give you the confirmation.

    Best regards

    Pavel
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