420611 - Unaccounted airwoman and airmen - 11-6-1942

[Henk Welting]

What were the places of death registration for:

A - Died on active service:
F/Sgt (WOp/Ag) Kenneth W. CAMPS - 751343 - 44 Sqn (Waddington, Lincolnshire), and
ACW1 Betty ORTON - 2058675 - 11 OTU/BC.

B - Not found in Flight archives:
P/O (Pilot) Guy E. CRYER - 68794.

C - Killed on active service:
Cpl Ernest FAULKNER - 640724;
Sgt George HARMAN - 521240;
F/Sgt (Pilot) Ernest T. MASSAM - 774083 (from N.Rhodesia), and
Cpl (Pilot u/t) Arnold RAINE - 569235.

D - Proposed aircraft losses:
Beaufighter II.F - T3019 - 2 Del Flt - crashed in forced landing Muirton Farm, 1 mile NW of Longformacus, Berwickshire.
Blenheim IV - V5571 - 5 (C)OTU - crashed on take-off Turnberry.
Magister I - R1851 - 15 EFTS - dived into ground Forest House, Gates Hill, Cumberland (already as a casualty on this a/c: P/O [Pilot] J. BROMLEY - 116574).
Sunderland I - P9604 - 4 (C)OTU - flew into ground Wig Bay.
Hotspur Glider II - BT728 - 102 GOTU - undershot landing Kidlington.

Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
Only Betty Orton came up, age 20, and registered in Cambridge.
Some of the rest may have been on the Sunderland which crashed in Scotland but not even Bromley came up
Regards
Dick

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Dick for info on ORTON. For sure more info will follow as some of the airmen probably were assigned to Coastal Command (4 [C]OTU).
Regards,
Henk.

[dennis_burke]

A - Died on active service:
Kenneth W. CAMPS - registered in 3rd Quarter of year age 24, North Kesteven district, Lincolnshire
ACW1 Betty ORTON - 2058675 - Cambridge district Per Dick's search

C - Killed on active service:
Guy E. CRYER - Flight magazine, same listing as those listed below. name in
Ernest FAULKNER
George HARMAN
Ernest T. MASSAM
Arnold RAINE

All five names appear under Kirkcolm District, Wigtown, Scotland during 1942.

Bromley is BrAmley per CWGC, making him
probably
per the index age 26 in Border District, Cumberland. He is age 24 on CWGC

[davew]

Henk

Additional to Bramley, I have Webb WL on the Magister. Webb looks to be 1867919 WO II William Leslie Webb of The Royal Engineers (attached Royal Artillery).

regards

DaveW

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Dennis & DaveW for this bunch of additional info.
Regards,
Henk.

[CZ_RAF]

Hi Henk,

569235 Raine, Arnold Cpl. 11-Jun-42 22 Sunderland (Mere Knolls) Cemetery, Durham. u/t Flight Engineer. 4 (Coastal) OTU. Short Sunderland I P9604. Based at Invergordon. 'Flew into ground'. Wig Bay.

http://www.oldhaltonians.co.uk/pages/rememb/ROH/R.htm

Pavel

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Pavel for confirmation Cpl RAINE.
Regards,
Henk.

[wwrsimon]

Hello

F/Sgt (WOp/Ag) Kenneth W. CAMPS - 751343 - the Lincolnshire Echo of July 10th 1942 reported the following:

A verdict of "accidental death" was recorded by the South Lincoln Coroner (Mr. Reynolds Scorer) at the resumed inquest, held yesterday, on Flight-Sergt. Kenneth Camps, R.A.F., whose home was at Abbey Farm, Audley End, Saffron Waldne, Essex.
Camps, it was stated was driving a motor cycle along the Branston-Waddington road in the early hours of the morning on June 11 when the machine appeared to mount the grass verge and crash. Camps was thrown forward on his face, receiving fatal injuries.

ACW1 Betty ORTON - 2058675 - a family tree on ancestry.co.uk states that she died at the station sick quarters, R.A.F. Bassingbourne, but gives no source for this info.

Cpl Ernest FAULKNER - 640724
Sgt George HARMAN - 521240
F/Sgt (Pilot) Ernest T. MASSAM - 774083 (from N.Rhodesia)
Cpl (Pilot u/t) Arnold RAINE - 569235

Their respective Graves Registration Report Forms give their unit as 4 (C) O.T.U.

Regards

Simon

[RecklessRat]

Not listed above but in the database as 'unaccounted' for this date:-

1239732 AC1 Robert William HARDER RAFVR
http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...php?qnum=78466
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/fi...obert-william/

Robert William Harder
'Aircraftsman - Royal Air Force'
Died at Springfield Hospital, Durban, aged 39, of 'Carcinoma of stomach; post operative secondary haemorrhage'

From the Form of Information of a Death on FamilySearch:-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...V2T?cc=2721608