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    Hello,

    I'm looking for the meaning of these abbreviations to help a friend to search the career of his father Mark Borthwick GARVEN of Canada in 38 Group:

    PRC
    TOS
    GTBD (might not be D)
    C + BA 38 Grp WTS

    Here is an extract of what my friend wrote:

    He arrived at 3 PRC 2 Sep 43, then eventually through P.T.S. (Parachute Training School) Ringway and 42 O.T.U. to 296 Sqn on 20 August 44.
    He was then attached to HGCU from O & RTU from 18 Sep to 1 Dec 44. Seemingly in the middle of this, he is attached to Fairford (26/10/44), and then TOS 1665 HCU on 4/12/44.
    From there, he seems to go to 38 Grp W.T.S. on 18/2/45 until he goes to 299 Sqn on 6/3/45.

    On 7/7/44 there is an entry " GTBD (might not be D) from ORTU to 42 OTU "
    Then on 4/3/45 the entry read " C + BA 38 Grp WTS ".

    I thank you in advance for all your help.

    Bruno
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    hello Bruno,

    PRC is Personnel Reception Centre, a place where people in transit would wait before starting a new course, especially after crossing the ocean. You knew when you left, not exactly when you would arrive, so there was some delay between them.

    TOS : Taken on Strength (SOS : struck off Strength).

    GTBD : Flying Training and Support Units since 1912, Sturtivant & Hamlin, Air-Britain, doesn't show this acronym. Closest is GTPS : Glider and Tug Pilots School. That would make sense for someone later posted to No. 38 Group.

    WTS had a double meaning : Wireless Telephony School or Weapons Training Squadron. Probably the latter as the former disbanded in 1919.

    Hope this helps

    Joss

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    Hello Joss,

    Un grand merci !
    Thanks very much.

    Bruno
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    Hi Bruno
    To round off what Joss has given you. 1665 HCU became part of 38 Gp in Dec 43 and from Jan 44 operated from Tilstock "to convert crews to Stirlings and Halifax's for Airborne Forces Sqns---" it seems to have remained with 38 Gp until Aug 45. All this comes from the Sturtivant and Hamlin book quoted by Joss. It points to your friend's Father being part of the Airborne Forces. The dates seem to indicate that he probably missed most of the major Airborne operations except possibly the Rhine crossings which took place around the end of Mar 45 from the air
    Regards
    Dick

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    Hi Dick,

    I thank you very much for your help.
    Yes, I also think that he was just in time for Varsity but not for the other major airborne operations.
    Best regards.

    Bruno
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