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    Default Bale-outs - 16-11-1943

    Hello All,

    On 16-11-1943, AUS411441 F/Lt Royds Molyneux CANVIN DFC RAAF, and AUS411964 Sgt Thomas Owen STEWART RAAF, baled out of an unidentified aircraft near Lincoln. I am aware of the loss of 432 (RCAF) Sqn Lancaster II DS847, on this date. Bill Chorley, in BCL4/379, names only three crew for this loss.

    Could Canvin and Stewart have been on board DS847? If not, can anyone suggest an alternative?

    Both men were long-serving members of 460 Sqn RAAF.

    All help appreciated.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 5th September 2009 at 11:32. Reason: minor correction

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    Col,
    I think you mean 432sqdn:-)

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    Hi Alan,

    Most certainly do! Have amended entry.

    Thanks.

    Col.

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    Default Bale-outs - 16-11-1943

    Hi Col.,

    Lancaster II DS847 QO- from 432 Sqn lost 16 Nov 1943.

    Crew:
    Pilot Flt/Sgt. Raymond Charles Burgess, J/19346 RCAF + 1)
    Navigator Flt/Sgt. Jim Bell, RCAF (baled out)
    Bomb Aimer Flt/Sgt William James Mayo, R/145924 RCAF + 1)
    Flt. Engineer Sgt. Kenneth Charles Simmonds, 1702067 RAF + 2)
    Wop/AG Flt/Sgt. Jock Calderwell, RAF (baled out)
    Mid. Upper AG Flt/Sgt. Paul Power, RCAF (baled out)
    Rear AG Flt/Sgt. Andy Haggins, RCAF (baled out)

    1) Buried CAMBRIDGE CITY CEMETERY.
    2) Buried CAINSCROSS (OR EBLEY) (ST. MATTHEW) CHURCHYARD.

    Regards

    Finn Buch

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    Col,
    The application for membership of the Caterpillar Club for these two was made by C/O of 460sqdn, there's no mention of anything in 460sqdn ORB, but the application states that they were compelled to bale out on a training flight on 16/11/43, and the ORB confirms that there were training flights that night.
    Last edited by AlanW; 5th September 2009 at 19:18.

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    Hello Alan/Finn,

    Apologies for the delay in replying, technical problems.

    Finn, Thanks for clarifying the 432 Sqn losses. It means l can now eliminate them from my searches.

    Alan, I started with the 460 Sqn ORB, found nothing definite there, so used NAA: A11270 20/AIR as my premise for further searching. I couldn't locate a 460 Sqn a/c loss on 16/17-11-1943, and that is why I cast my net a little wider, ie 432 Sqn. Right date, right location, wrong aircraft!

    Canvin and Stewart, were both navigators. If there was an a/c loss, what happened to the rest of crew? Questions, Questions!

    Alan, your help much appreciated, as well.

    Col.

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    Col,
    It may be that the aircraft was not lost, the C.O says that they were compelled to bale out in the vicinity of Lincoln, due to icing on the a/c. Is it possible that they went without orders perhaps, and the a/c returned ok, as these two were the only applications made for caterpillar club for 16th Nov, and as we all know, the ORB's quite frequently omit things

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