Unaccounted airmen - 10-7-1940

[Henk Welting]

What caused the death of following airmen:

Sgt (Obs) Christopher J. DENT - 755832 - killed on active service (Flight Global), buried Shawbury (St.Mary) Churchyard, Shropshire (UK6294).

Sgt (WOp/Ag) Hugh HANNAN - 629054 - killed on active service (Flight Global), buried Whitburn Cem., West Lothian (UK7611).

F/O (Pilot) John A. LINCOLN - 70400 - whose name I can't find in Flight Global archives and having problems to enter website The Times archives, buried Hendon Cem., Middlesex (UK3771).

AC2 Arthur R. WARD - 906836 - died of wounds or injuries received on active service (Flight Global), buried Silloth (Causewayhead) Cem., Holme Low, Cumberland (UK176).

AC2 Thomas C. WATSON - 79577 - killed on active service (Flight Global), buried same cemetery as Sgt DENT, mentioned before.

AC2 Harry WILKINSON - 626304 - died of wounds or injuries received on active service (Flight Global), buried Edinburgh (Mount Vernon) Cem. (UK7476).

Sgt (WOp) Arthur WILLIAMS - 646080 - killed on active service (Flight Global), buried Llanguicke (St.Ciwg) Churchyard, Llangiwg, Glamorganshire (UK8990).

Proposed aircraft losses for this day:

Anson I - N5156 - 13 OTU - lost (*)
Anson I - N5172 - 13 OTU - lost (*)
(*) Avro historian: collided, no info on crew.
Blenheim I - L1358 - 1 AAS - flew into ground Great Carlton near Manby
Cadet - G-ACNE - Air Service Training - crashed on take-off Hamble
Oxford I - L9658 - 14 FTS - crashed on approach at night Cranfield.

Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
Lincoln's name is given in Warner "Blenheim" as the pilot of L1358, where an engine cut in a thunderstorm and the a/c dived into the ground. Also on board were 3 Army Officers of the 1st Derbyshire Yeomanry . 2 Died with Lincoln and 1 was seriously injured.
Regards
Dick

[Dick]

Hi Again Henk
Watson,Williams,Dent and Hannon are in Chorley Vol 7 as being killed when Anson I, N5019 of 15 OTU became lost and flew into high ground in Wales,3 mls S of Rhayder in Radnorshire
I've looked at Google Maps and I think that it should be RHAYADER(atypo in Chorley)
Regards
Dick

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Dick for this excellent info. Especially the 1 AAS Blenheim with F/O Lincoln. If you ever find the names of the Army passengers please let me know.
I've all 9 volumes BCL of Chorley but missed N5019 completely. Age ??
Regards,
Henk.

[Henk Welting]

I didn't forget to add N5019 into my files. I quoted from the Air Britain Aeromilitaria "Crashes in UK" and on this list N5019 was omitted. I probably forgot to delete the names from my "unaccounted" list. I should have found their names if I had checked my files on their svcnrs.
Henk.

[Dick]

Hi Henk
We are allowed "Senior Moments", it is one of the priveleges of getting past 70!
The Army casualties on L1358 were
Capt. R Curzon
2nd Lt R Jelf, both killed
2nd Lt Bate(no initial given) seriously injured
Regards
Dick

[paulmcmillan]

Actually Richard Hill Jelf
and Ralph Okeover Nathaniel Curzon

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Dick for understanding 'this old man' this year going up to 75 ! Thanks Paul for additional info. Will check CWGC and amend my files.
Regards,
Henk.

[thorne83]

Henk - i have from the ORB of 11 FTS (who sent a party to collect the bodies and examine the crash site) and it states that the crash of the Anson was at Llanwrthwl near Rhayader. One member of the crew was seriously injured and dragged himself some distance for help - Sgt Smith (745479). The other four were killed.

Hope thats of interest, Tom

[Henk Welting]

Thanks Tom. Meanwhile have all names of the crew and their fate. The aircraft flew into high ground Mt Y Gamrhiw near Llanwrthwl 3 m S of Rhayader, 23.30h.
Henk.