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    Default Flt Lt Richard Vere Potts (128004)

    Hi all,

    I'm interested to learn more of the service history of this pilot:

    Flt Lt Richard Vere Potts (128004)

    He was 34 years of age in 1955 when the Chipmunk he was flying crashed into a crowd of spectators on the Otterburn Range, killing six people on the ground. Flt Lt Potts survived the crash and was subsequently docked two years seniority and severely reprimanded.

    Hope you can help.

    Jim
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    Jim,

    From the RAF Retired List of 1975:

    POTTS, R V., AFC. Born 20/10/20. Commd 15/6/42. Flt Lt 15/12/48. Retd GD 11/10/55 rtg Sqn Ldr.

    Errol

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    Hi Errol,

    Thanks for the prompt reply!

    What does rtg mean?

    I am wondering if this person served during WWII, he was certainly old enough.

    Jim
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    Hi Jim

    rtg means 'Retaining' which means he was an acting Sqn Ldr and allowed to use the title after retirement.

    Malcolm

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    He Enlisted in Sep 1939 as 1060186. He was Cmd (128004) on 15 Jun 1942 having risen to T/Flt Sgt.
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    Hi all,

    Thanks for the replies. It would appear that he was not docked two years seniority as he retired as Squadron Leader.

    Anyone got info on his service history during WWII?

    Thanks,

    Jim
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    Hi Jim

    He would have been 'docked' two years seniority, it simply meant he would have take an extra two years to reach Squadron Leader, which he never did hence why he retired as as a Flight Lieutenant retainng the rank of Squadron Leader. He was only an Acting Squadron Leader.

    Malcolm

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    Jim, Here are your man's LG entries:
    Air Ministry, 8th September, 1942.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    To be Plt. Offs. on prob. (emergency) :
    Tempy. Flt. Sgts.
    1060186 Richard Vere POTTS (128004). 15th June -1942.

    Air Ministry, 22nd January, 1943.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH
    Plt. Offs. (prob.) to be Flg. Offs. on prob (war subs.):
    15th Dec 1942
    R. V, POTTS (128004)

    Air Ministry, 7th July, 1944.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Promotion.
    Flg. Off. to Flt. Lt.(war subs.):
    15th June 1944.
    R. V. POTTS (128004).

    Air Ministry, 1st January, 1946.
    The KING has been graciously pleased to approve the following awards:
    Air Force Cross.
    Flight Lieutenants.
    Richard Vere POTTS (128004), R.A.F.V.R.

    Air Ministry, 24th December, 1946.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Appointment to commission.
    As Flying Officers (permanent)*:
    1st July 1946.
    Richard Vere POTTS, A.F.C. (128004).
    * Retaining their existing ranks under wartime rules. Relative seniority in. permanent rank will be determined later.

    Air Ministry, 21st January, 1947.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Promotion.
    Flight Lieutenant (war subs.) to Flight Lieutenant:
    2nd July 1946.
    R. V. POTTS, A.F.C. (128004).

    Air Ministry, 25th February, 1947.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    In accordance with A.M.O. A. 146/47 the undermentioned officers are granted the seniorities in their substantive ranks as stated:
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Flight Lieutenants:
    R. V. POTTS, A.F.C. (128004). 15th Dec 1945

    Air Ministry, 11th October, 1955.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Forfeiture of seniority.
    Flight Lieutenant R. V. POTTS, A.F.C. (128004), takes rank and precedence (with effect from 12th July 1955) as if his appointment as Flight Lieutenant bore date 15th Dec. 1948.

    Air Ministry, 8th November, 1955
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Retirement.
    Flight Lieutenant R. V. POTTS, A.F.C. (128004) (at own request), retaining the rank of Squadron Leader, 11th Oct. 1955.

    As to retaining the rank of Sqn Ldr, at some stage he must have been an acting sqn ldr; acting rank is not gazetted. It is normal to be retired in the highest rank held.

    Regards, Terry

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    Thanks Terry and everyone else for their input.

    Has anyone come across this person before during their research, I would be interested in learning more of his wartime exploits, particularly which units he served with.

    Thanks,

    Jim
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    POTTS, Richard Vere, F/L (128004, RAFVR*) - Headquarters, East African Communications Flight - Air Force Cross - awarded as per London Gazette dated 1 January 1946. Public Record Office Air 2/9144, courtesy of Steve Brew, has citation drafted when he had flown 1,800 hours, 560 on current duties, 270 in previous six months.

    "For a year, this officer undertook meteorological climbs in Madagascar before joining East Africa Communications Flight. During the period of two years with the Flight he has accomplished more than 300 meteorological climbs, under arduous conditions, and has completed 800 hours flying as a transport captain."

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